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Dimpled Eggs

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  • 08-12-2013, 07:02 PM
    BHReptiles
    Dimpled Eggs
    Today is day 7 for my first clutch and three of the eggs have started to dimple (bad, I know!). At first I was not using any press-n-seal and after about day 4 I noticed these three starting to dimple. So, right before I left for the NARBC, I added more water and added some press-n-seal. I pulled the eggs out today to candle them and all of them have healthy veins. There's standing water and condensation on the tub so I know it's humid enough (also...the eggs aren't touching the edge of the tub, the picture angle just makes it seem like that). I even saw movement in one of the eggs.

    My question is this: is there anything else I need to do to prevent the dimpling from getting worse? Can it be reversed?

    http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/4585/3ozj.jpg
  • 08-12-2013, 07:08 PM
    sho220
    Two questions...what's up with the straws? Earthquake prone area? :D And why bother with any substrate at all if you're just going to fill it up with so much water? Good luck...it's certainly an interesting way to go about it...
  • 08-12-2013, 07:34 PM
    BHReptiles
    Re: Dimpled Eggs
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sho220 View Post
    Two questions...what's up with the straws? Earthquake prone area? :D And why bother with any substrate at all if you're just going to fill it up with so much water? Good luck...it's certainly an interesting way to go about it...

    The straws are just so they don't roll around in the box. I'd rather be OVER cautious with these eggs than not cautious enough. Some of them are not stuck to the others so I just wanted to make sure they stay all together.

    As for the water, I thought I had PLENTY before the eggs started to dimple. So I added more then realized it was more than enough. I guess I just use substrate so the water doesn't josh on the eggs. These are my very first eggs and I don't want anything to happen to them. Just call me overly cautious, I guess.
  • 08-12-2013, 07:38 PM
    toyota89
    Dimpled Eggs
    I did my clutch almost the same way. Mine started to dimple bad in the first week. All still look great with good veins and today is day 51.


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  • 08-12-2013, 07:43 PM
    BHReptiles
    Re: Dimpled Eggs
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by toyota89 View Post
    I did my clutch almost the same way. Mine started to dimple bad in the first week. All still look great with good veins and today is day 51.

    Did your dimples stay the whole time or did they get better?
  • 08-12-2013, 07:57 PM
    toyota89
    Re: Dimpled Eggs
    http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/08/13/urugujeg.jpg
    Taken today

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  • 08-12-2013, 08:23 PM
    SlitherinSisters
    As long as you have a bunch of water in there they should be fine. I don't use press-n-seal at all.

    Here is a clutch a week before I cut them, you can see how soaked my substrate is. Really the substrate is just in there to keep the water from splashing on the eggs when I move the tub.
    http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...ps2a104ed4.jpg

    A close up of a different clutch, this one is probably easier to see the water
    http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...ps762c3407.jpg
  • 08-12-2013, 08:43 PM
    T&C Exotics
    Re: Dimpled Eggs
    On thing you can do if you really want to is take a damp paper towel and place it over the eggs but in reality you don't need to. They should be just fine as long as you keep the humidity up.
  • 08-12-2013, 09:52 PM
    BHReptiles
    Re: Dimpled Eggs
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SlitherinSisters View Post
    A close up of a different clutch, this one is probably easier to see the water
    http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...ps762c3407.jpg

    That's what my substrate looks like up close. It's full to the brim with water. I guess the tub wasn't air tight even though it had a locking lid. I went ahead and put the press-n-seal on it. Hopefully they all do well from now on. I was just worried about the dimpling and didn't want there to be another problem that I wasn't aware of.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tattlife2001 View Post
    On thing you can do if you really want to is take a damp paper towel and place it over the eggs but in reality you don't need to. They should be just fine as long as you keep the humidity up.

    The humidity is as high as I can get it. I -think- they'll be okay. I just wanted an opinion with a little more experience than mine to make sure all was well. I've got another clutch due to drop any day and I want to make sure they are incubated perfectly.
  • 08-12-2013, 10:05 PM
    BHReptiles
    Re: Dimpled Eggs
    And just for fun, here's the video from today. This little gem was moving around in the egg. I grabbed my phone to take a video and it stopped moving. :( However...it did flutter towards the end.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV2DPa6-rcc
  • 08-12-2013, 10:13 PM
    CD CONSTRICTORS
    Just curious what temps are? Not the probe reading, but actual egg temps with a IR gun.
  • 08-12-2013, 10:23 PM
    BHReptiles
    Re: Dimpled Eggs
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by coreydelong View Post
    Just curious what temps are? Not the probe reading, but actual egg temps with a IR gun.

    I did not check them. I will definitely check next time I open the incubator. What SHOULD the egg temp be? I just have the thermostat probe in a dummy box set at 88.5* and 4 different thermometers all reading right around that temp. I just assumed my eggs would be around that temp.
  • 08-12-2013, 10:27 PM
    sho220
    Re: Dimpled Eggs
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BHReptiles View Post
    I did not check them. I will definitely check next time I open the incubator. What SHOULD the egg temp be? I just have the thermostat probe in a dummy box set at 88.5* and 4 different thermometers all reading right around that temp. I just assumed my eggs would be around that temp.

    I've checked eggs before with an IR temp gun and they usually read 3-5 degrees warmer than the egg box substrate...i.e. substate reads 89 and eggs read 93-95'ish...
  • 08-12-2013, 10:30 PM
    CD CONSTRICTORS
    I have my incubator set to 89.5F and my egg temps are 88F. My probes are not in the tubs though. I like to keep as tight a seal as I can. I use 6qt Sterlite tubs (non-locking lids) with no press and seal.

    Two weeks left till my next clutch is due and they are just starting to dimple a touch.
  • 08-12-2013, 10:35 PM
    BHReptiles
    Re: Dimpled Eggs
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sho220 View Post
    I've checked eggs before with an IR temp gun and they usually read 3-5 degrees warmer than the egg box substrate...i.e. substate reads 89 and eggs read 93-95'ish...

    On Day 3 or 4 they were about 89-90 but I haven't checked since then.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by coreydelong View Post
    I have my incubator set to 89.5F and my egg temps are 88F. My probes are not in the tubs though. I like to keep as tight a seal as I can. I use 6qt Sterlite tubs (non-locking lids) with no press and seal.

    Two weeks left till my next clutch is due and they are just starting to dimple a touch.

    The dimples haven't gotten worse since I put the extra water and press-n-seal in. The ambient temp of the bator is about 90. I usually peek in the incubator about every couple of days to make sure the temps are stable. However, the thermometer for the ambient temp of the whole incubator is on top of the incubator and so far it's been very stable.
  • 08-12-2013, 10:57 PM
    CD CONSTRICTORS
    Re: Dimpled Eggs
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sho220 View Post
    I've checked eggs before with an IR temp gun and they usually read 3-5 degrees warmer than the egg box substrate...i.e. substate reads 89 and eggs read 93-95'ish...

    I just try to keep the eggs at 88-89F and all 3 clutches so far have been fine cutting at day 52. Two more in the incubator and one big Pastel still to ovy :confusd:

    I "might" let my Pied eggs go to day 55 ;)
  • 08-12-2013, 11:32 PM
    BHReptiles
    Re: Dimpled Eggs
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by coreydelong View Post
    I just try to keep the eggs at 88-89F and all 3 clutches so far have been fine cutting at day 52. Two more in the incubator and one big Pastel still to ovy :confusd:

    I "might" let my Pied eggs go to day 55 ;)


    Haha! Any reason why you're going to wait until day 55?

    I don't actually plan on cutting. I'm going to let all the little ones pip.

    Hopefully your pastel will ovy soon.
  • 08-16-2013, 07:29 PM
    ironpython
    Re: Dimpled Eggs
    First clutch y'all remember how nervous I was and most said don't cut so I didn't, but just for the experience I cut the second clutch and it drove me crazy waiting for them to crawl out. I just new I messed up but they came out just fine. I'm not going to cut the third and last clutch until they pip. Now Corey you being a nurse probably makes you more confident with stuff like that but I just knew I screwed IP. My nerves can't take it I guess I'm a wuss.

    1.1 pastels, 1.0 lesser, 0.1 spider, 1.3 norm. 1.0 fire 0.1 RTB 0.0 sav. Mon.
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