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  • 08-09-2013, 03:41 PM
    DavidMundy
    Proven Het Clown Female Pricing
    I'm in the market for another proven het clown female and was wondering the current market on them. I picked my 1900 gram girl up last year for $1000 and seen others sell for $800-$1200. This years pricing (few that I seen) had them all over the place from $600-1200.
  • 08-09-2013, 03:50 PM
    S.I.R.
    Re: Proven Het Clown Female Pricing
    Proven het clown adult females that are breed ready are still going for $1000 and up. Occasionally you might find one a little cheaper, but the two I picked up recently were 1k each. Both are around 2800grams. Hope this helps.
  • 08-10-2013, 04:42 AM
    SnakeGriffin
    Re: Proven Het Clown Female Pricing
    Hmm.. 1k for a proven het clown adult? Is this just for adults only? I just purchased a het clown female for under $300. Of course she is just a hatchling but, 1k seems a little dramatic for an adult. Ive seen female clowns go for $1300.
  • 08-10-2013, 09:39 AM
    DavidMundy
    Re: Proven Het Clown Female Pricing
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SnakeGriffin View Post
    Hmm.. 1k for a proven het clown adult? Is this just for adults only? I just purchased a het clown female for under $300. Of course she is just a hatchling but, 1k seems a little dramatic for an adult. Ive seen female clowns go for $1300.

    It seems pretty reasonable to me. I just wanted to double check what people are paying and selling them for to make sure they didn't drop from last year's pricing.
  • 08-10-2013, 11:26 AM
    RandyRemington
    Buying time isn't cheap. A ready to breed female will buy you an extra couple year's of clutches compared to a hatchling.
  • 08-10-2013, 11:33 AM
    Shadera
    Re: Proven Het Clown Female Pricing
    If you're dumping a collection or just generally being a scumbag, you're selling them for $600 or so. If you value your animals and price them at what you feel they're worth, you price them higher.

    Just sold one for $1500, if that helps. ;)
  • 08-10-2013, 02:03 PM
    don15681
    Re: Proven Het Clown Female Pricing
    I would rather pay 1000+ from someone I trust. than 600 just because it's cheap.
  • 08-10-2013, 02:05 PM
    don15681
    Re: Proven Het Clown Female Pricing
    Proven het clown adult females that are breed ready are still going for $1000 and up. Occasionally you might find one a little cheaper, but the two I picked up recently were 1k each. Both are around 2800grams. Hope this helps.


    that sounds like a great deal, not market price.
  • 08-10-2013, 02:19 PM
    rabernet
    Re: Proven Het Clown Female Pricing
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SnakeGriffin View Post
    Hmm.. 1k for a proven het clown adult? Is this just for adults only? I just purchased a het clown female for under $300. Of course she is just a hatchling but, 1k seems a little dramatic for an adult. Ive seen female clowns go for $1300.

    You are comparing babies to adult breedable females.

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  • 08-10-2013, 03:10 PM
    Pythonfriend
    Re: Proven Het Clown Female Pricing
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RandyRemington View Post
    Buying time isn't cheap. A ready to breed female will buy you an extra couple year's of clutches compared to a hatchling.

    x2

    ready to breed saves 2-3 years of time, 2-3 years of husbandry, electricity bills, feeding, work.
  • 08-10-2013, 03:37 PM
    DavidMundy
    Re: Proven Het Clown Female Pricing
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Shadera View Post
    If you're dumping a collection or just generally being a scumbag, you're selling them for $600 or so. If you value your animals and price them at what you feel they're worth, you price them higher.

    Just sold one for $1500, if that helps. ;)

    That's $300 more than I could of gotten it for had I the cash a few hours beforehand. ;)
  • 08-10-2013, 03:48 PM
    DavidMundy
    Re: Proven Het Clown Female Pricing
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by don15681 View Post
    that sounds like a great deal, not market price.

    See here's what really confuses me. I've seen respectable breeders sell them last year at $700-1000. I got mine for $1000 last year as well. Was it a great deal then or just market pricing? Shadera sold one prettt quickly at $1500 but last year household named breeders were letting them go much cheaper. Did the price go up from last year? Idk I just feel like most people don't really know what the pricing is on them. And I am one of them.
  • 08-10-2013, 04:18 PM
    Shadera
    Re: Proven Het Clown Female Pricing
    It all has to do with market supply, and how much people are willing to spend. :confuzd: That's how it is with any of the morphs, and especially with proven breeder females. I just happened to put one up for sale, showed proof that she produced nice clowns, and the buyer was willing to pay my asking price. Who knows, next week there may be a few dozen of them on the market, and they may drop to a hundred bucks.
  • 08-10-2013, 04:22 PM
    Dave Green
    Also, adults can be difficult to price as there aren't as many on the market compared to babies. Babies are much easier as you can search and typically find a batch for sale and price from there. Also, adults may vary in size and past egg production. Some of the females may have been smaller or had small clutches. A big proven breeder that has had big clutches would be priced at a premium.
  • 08-10-2013, 04:30 PM
    Pythonfriend
    Re: Proven Het Clown Female Pricing
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DavidMundy View Post
    See here's what really confuses me. I've seen respectable breeders sell them last year at $700-1000. I got mine for $1000 last year as well. Was it a great deal then or just market pricing? Shadera sold one prettt quickly at $1500 but last year household named breeders were letting them go much cheaper. Did the price go up from last year? Idk I just feel like most people don't really know what the pricing is on them. And I am one of them.

    that wont change until you trade with proven female het clown breeders a lot. which noone does.

    Hatchlings are traded the most, so here the prices are most solid and most well-known. Proven breeders are not traded that often, actually its quite rare.

    Everyone that breeds clowns knows the prices for male and female clown and het clown hatchlings, and has his own way to price clown + extra gene and het clown + extra gene hatchlings. But only a small subset of these people ever traded proven breeders.

    The thing with market prices is, when an item is traded too infrequently, the price goes grainy, it varies, without enough reference information people just think hard and then make up a price. Its not just with proven breeders, unusual hatchlings face the same problem. How much for a super GHI lesser? Yes, very high price, but also very unknown because its being traded too rarely.

    Where we do have rather solid prices, its only the product of frequent trading and lots of transactions. Take that away, look at a case of infrequent trading and very few transactions, and there will be no solid price.


    Best we can do is to realize female proven breeders are worth a lot more than female hatchlings, and realize that for hatchlings we do have prices, and then come up with some factor based on age and weight. Like, a proven female breeder, 4 years old, one healthy clutch produced, is worth 3-4 times more than a hatchling of the same variety. You need to figure out something like this if you want to be ahead of the others.
  • 08-11-2013, 07:02 PM
    zues
    Re: Proven Het Clown Female Pricing
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DavidMundy View Post
    See here's what really confuses me. I've seen respectable breeders sell them last year at $700-1000. I got mine for $1000 last year as well. Was it a great deal then or just market pricing? Shadera sold one prettt quickly at $1500 but last year household named breeders were letting them go much cheaper. Did the price go up from last year? Idk I just feel like most people don't really know what the pricing is on them. And I am one of them.

    I think the proven het clown female market might be a little stronger this year and may be for the next few years. There are a lot of people now with codom het clown males in their collection and all they need to produce those awesome clown combos is a huge het clown girl that will drop large clutches to increase their odds.
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