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  • 08-08-2013, 03:32 PM
    Sarin
    Pastel Enchi x Vanilla Pipping
    Second clutch of the year is pipping (day 54).. Super excited and really hope I hit a triple!

    First one looks to be a real nice Pastel.


    https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.n...27147830_n.jpg

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater


    More to come as they pip!
  • 08-08-2013, 03:36 PM
    don15681
    Re: Pastel Enchi x Vanilla Pipping
    congratz on the clutch and good luck on hitting that triple! don
  • 08-08-2013, 03:37 PM
    el8ch
    Woohoo!! Good luck Nicole! :D
  • 08-08-2013, 04:32 PM
    Southern_Breeder
    Good luck on hitting the triple! :gj:
  • 08-08-2013, 06:31 PM
    SlitherinSisters
    Congrats! I'm excited for more pictures!
  • 08-08-2013, 10:08 PM
    RichieBoo
    Re: Pastel Enchi x Vanilla Pipping
    Goog luck on the triple..
  • 08-08-2013, 11:03 PM
    lightpied
    Pastel Enchi x Vanilla Pipping
    Sweet!! Best of luck to you!
  • 08-08-2013, 11:27 PM
    Sarin
    Almost 2 days and still no more pips. Gahh!! :P
  • 08-08-2013, 11:32 PM
    Bluebonnet Herp
    Re: Pastel Enchi x Vanilla Pipping
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sarin View Post
    Almost 2 days and still no more pips. Gahh!! :P

    I'd cut those. It may not be good news.
  • 08-09-2013, 10:55 AM
    Sarin
    Re: Pastel Enchi x Vanilla Pipping
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pythonminion View Post
    I'd cut those. It may not be good news.

    I don't cut, they will come when they're ready. :gj:





    https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.n...90067320_n.jpg

    First one's out and second one is pipping! Second one looks to be an Enchi or Vanilla.




    https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.n...83311843_n.jpg

    It's a GIRL! I am leaning towards nice pastel but she could be a pastel vanilla. Vanilla experts, what's your opinion?




    https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.n...02420383_n.jpg

    Same girl next to a Phantom boy.
  • 08-09-2013, 11:10 AM
    OctagonGecko729
    I am by no means an expert but I think it may be a pastel vanilla. Some pastel vanillas are alot more reduced though. However the bright cream color says vanilla to me.
  • 08-09-2013, 11:21 PM
    Sarin
    https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.n...25979794_n.jpg

    Second one is out and it's a boy. :)
  • 08-10-2013, 02:12 AM
    Diamond Serpents
    Re: Pastel Enchi x Vanilla Pipping
    Very nice looking, still hoping you hit the triple best of luck.
  • 08-10-2013, 02:13 AM
    Cross Exotics
    Best of luck on the triple combo and the ones already out are nice looking. :gj:
  • 08-10-2013, 08:15 PM
    Sarin
    2 more pips... Getting interesting.

    https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.n...83788685_n.jpg
  • 08-11-2013, 07:56 AM
    rlditmars
    Re: Pastel Enchi x Vanilla Pipping
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sarin View Post
    2 more pips... Getting interesting.

    https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.n...83788685_n.jpg

    So what is that? Even all three genes shouldn't be a white snake right? Any other pairings with the female?
  • 08-11-2013, 07:59 AM
    Neal
    Definitely a nice pairing, and congrats on the babies. I hope you hit your three combo.
  • 08-11-2013, 08:13 AM
    cschneider
    Pastel Enchi x Vanilla Pipping
    Good luck! Nothing beats the feeling you get when those little heads are poking out! So exciting! And I really want to see that white one. Is that possible with the pairing you mentioned?
  • 08-11-2013, 11:15 AM
    Sarin
    Re: Pastel Enchi x Vanilla Pipping
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rlditmars View Post
    So what is that? Even all three genes shouldn't be a white snake right? Any other pairings with the female?

    No this pairing shouldn't have produced an all white snake.. The only other male with her which I witnessed no locks was a Pastel Sugar, however that wouldn't have created this snake either. I have an idea of what has gone on here but won't know for sure until the breeder of the parents replies to me. :)


    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Neal View Post
    Definitely a nice pairing, and congrats on the babies. I hope you hit your three combo.

    Thanks!

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cschneider View Post
    Good luck! Nothing beats the feeling you get when those little heads are poking out! So exciting! And I really want to see that white one. Is that possible with the pairing you mentioned?

    No, the pairing shouldn't have produced that snake.


    The pink snake looks to be a Black Eye'd Lucy... S/he's not out yet. Really neat. :)


    Third one's out! They're taking their sweet time.

    https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.n...85116105_n.jpg


    The 3 hatchlings so far..

    https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.n...86018679_n.jpg
  • 08-11-2013, 12:25 PM
    rlditmars
    Re: Pastel Enchi x Vanilla Pipping
    If you are correct and it's a Black eyed lucy ( which it certainly appears to be),then it would seem your Vanilla is actually a Fire and that the Pastel Enchi is carrying Fire to. Any chance this is a retained sperm situation from last seasons pairing? I am really intrigued to find out what the deal is.

    Some beautiful worms there just the same and the BEL is a cool surprise.
  • 08-11-2013, 03:37 PM
    Sarin
    Re: Pastel Enchi x Vanilla Pipping
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rlditmars View Post
    If you are correct and it's a Black eyed lucy ( which it certainly appears to be),then it would seem your Vanilla is actually a Fire and that the Pastel Enchi is carrying Fire to. Any chance this is a retained sperm situation from last seasons pairing? I am really intrigued to find out what the deal is.

    Some beautiful worms there just the same and the BEL is a cool surprise.

    You are on the right track in regards to what I am thinking. I do not think my male is a fire..

    But until I get information on the grandparents of this clutch, it's all speculation! :)


    Four are out! Last egg has a little Normal still in it.

    Looks like I have a Pastel (possible Pastel Vanilla) female, a smoking Enchi male, a Vanilla Enchi(?) female and a Black Eye'd Lucy female.. Now to figure out exactly how that happened. Let me know if you guys think any differently.

    I will pop them again after their first shed.

    https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.n...33850798_n.jpg

    https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.n...03806626_n.jpg

    Enjoy!
  • 08-11-2013, 04:37 PM
    cory9oh4
    Nice babies!!!
  • 08-11-2013, 05:37 PM
    rlditmars
    Re: Pastel Enchi x Vanilla Pipping
    Well that is definitely a super fire and a nice one at that. Starting from the left and going clockwise, the next two look to me like a very nice enchi and then a pastel. The one on the far right throws me. I am thinking perhaps firefly. If it's pastel enchi there sure isn't as much banding as the enchi has. Do you think you still have vanilla in play considering the super fire? You say you don't think your male is a fire. But for it to be vanilla and throw fire it would have to be a vanillla cream, and there is no way of mistaking that for either of the single gene morphs. Quite the mystery. I will stay tuned.
  • 08-11-2013, 05:39 PM
    Sarin
    Re: Pastel Enchi x Vanilla Pipping
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cory9oh4 View Post
    Nice babies!!!

    Thanks!
  • 08-11-2013, 06:58 PM
    Quiet Tempest
    Incredible clutch! Congrats! :)
  • 08-12-2013, 09:55 AM
    Sarin
    Re: Pastel Enchi x Vanilla Pipping
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rlditmars View Post
    Well that is definitely a super fire and a nice one at that. Starting from the left and going clockwise, the next two look to me like a very nice enchi and then a pastel. The one on the far right throws me. I am thinking perhaps firefly. If it's pastel enchi there sure isn't as much banding as the enchi has. Do you think you still have vanilla in play considering the super fire? You say you don't think your male is a fire. But for it to be vanilla and throw fire it would have to be a vanillla cream, and there is no way of mistaking that for either of the single gene morphs. Quite the mystery. I will stay tuned.

    I agree, I see enchi, pastel, and super fire. However I think the girl on the right is a vanilla enchi.... Which doesn't make much sense, I know. I'm still waiting to hear back from the parents breeder, but when I do I should know more.

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  • 08-12-2013, 10:08 AM
    xbikez
    Pastel Enchi x Vanilla Pipping
    Really nice clutch, congrats.
  • 08-14-2013, 02:46 AM
    kai414
    Can you post pics of the parents? Awesome clutch!
  • 08-14-2013, 11:59 AM
    ARamos8
    What a nice surprise! :O Excellent! :gj:
  • 08-16-2013, 05:32 PM
    Sarin
    Here are pics of the parents:

    http://i910.photobucket.com/albums/a...psad727405.png

    https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.n...94822360_n.jpg



    I'm going to be keeping them all for a little while. I contacted the breeder of the parents and he doesn't have any clutch records unfortunately..!

    I do have 5 eggs due Sept 18th from the Pastel Enchi father to a Normal girl. If the father has anything to do with what happened, I MAY have an answer. But until the girls are old enough to breed, there won't be an answer for a while.

    I'll post more pics once they shed.
  • 08-16-2013, 07:22 PM
    Sarin
  • 08-16-2013, 10:26 PM
    hondo1967
    super nice congratz:gj:
  • 08-17-2013, 01:12 AM
    steeler
    Re: Pastel Enchi x Vanilla Pipping
    I still see all Fire stuff...

    I see a super fire, Firefly, Fire, Enchi, normal...
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