Is this normal behavior? also, metallic eyes

I've been keeping a towel over her enclosure and ever since I held her last she's been more active and chilling with her head out like this for hours at a time. do they get more comfortable and feel less like hiding? or is she being weird

also, her eyes are so cool looking, almost metallic? is this normal in butters?

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/08/03/qapusabu.jpg

How long have you had her? She may be feeling safe enough to keep an eye on her surroundings. Have you got her husbandry worked out?

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Originally Posted by Archimedes

How long have you had her? She may be feeling safe enough to keep an eye on her surroundings. Have you got her husbandry worked out?

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I've had her since July 6 and she was born on June 7. Her humidity is at about 60% and the temp is 80 with a Uth under the hide she is poking out.

By 80 do you mean ambient temp? That's good, but she'll need a hotspot of 88-92, regulated by a thermostat or dimmer switch.

just checked up on her...

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/08/03/y7epyge6.jpg

it's day time, shouldn't she be sleeping?!

If she's being active, she's probably uncomfortable. Check her hotspot, it may be too warm for her to be comfortable in her hide. Most UTHs get far too hot for comfort without a thermostat wired into it.

Do you have a thermostat?

yeah I meant ambient temp and her heating pad gets pretty hot but I regulate it with a thermostat and she always goes to hide in the cool spot anyways? I'll take temps of the hot side later

also she isn't being active right now I think because its day time. and keep in mind I have a towel over it with a little light peeking through the bottom by where she is putting her head..

Just wondering, but do you have a full body pic of her? She kinda looks like aa mojave to me.

As for the hiding, or lack thereof, could be a few different things. She could be hungry, maybe time to bump up prey size, are her hides appropriately sized? Or, she could just be goofy. Pretty sure there is an entire thread of bps misusing hides and being goofy. :D

but I am still curious about her eyes as well lol. is this genetic?

Metallic looking eyes could be stuck eye caps.

She definitely looks Mojave, and in that case, yes I believe it would be. RoseyReps would know better about the ins and outs of the morph. Heh.

The eyes are what made me wonder about Mojave. My mojo has gun metal eyes. Haven't seen any butters with them though. More pics! :D

My mojo with his nifty metallic eyes:

http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/o...ps35ed9602.jpg
http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/o...ps59f98219.jpg

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Just wondering, but do you have a full body pic of her? She kinda looks like aa mojave to me.

As for the hiding, or lack thereof, could be a few different things. She could be hungry, maybe time to bump up prey size, are her hides appropriately sized? Or, she could just be goofy. Pretty sure there is an entire thread of bps misusing hides and being goofy. :D

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I have a couple of pics :)
this is from yesterday
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/08/03/a4uqu8e4.jpg
&this is when I first got her
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/08/03/redajasy.jpg
she is a butter (lesser x pinstripe I was told?)

well I am supposed to feed her tomorrow so she could be hungry.. but last time I fed her I gave her a jumbo mouse and it scared me cuz it looked a little big for her but she didn't hesitate to savagely crush that thing inside her with her neck lol (so cool but gross) and the week before that she had two small mice so this week I was thinking of just giving her one small mouse since she has been eating so much? so idk Maybe I accidentally created a hungry monster lol

She does use her hides in a funny way when she's active at night, I love it. she's got a pretty cool personality for a snake, if I do say so myself :b
oh man I would like to read that thread lol

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My mojo with his nifty metallic eyes:

http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/o...ps35ed9602.jpg
http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/o...ps59f98219.jpg

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those are awesome! yeah hers are like that too but it looks like its where her head stripe goes kinda. and they're more yellow. I hope it's not stuck eye shed but I'm pretty sure her eyes were like that before her shed, unfortunately my pictures don't really show them that well.

I'm still gonna say Mojo. I've never seen a Butter that dark.

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she is a butter (lesser x pinstripe I was told?)

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Not sure who told you that, but a butter is a butter, a lesser is a lesser, and a pinstripe is a pinstripe. She has about as much chance to be anything if that's what their expertise told you. There's no way she could be a butter from a lesser x pinstripe pairing - genetics just don't work that way. At best, she could be a lesser (which is incredibly similar to butter) from that pairing, but from the looks of her she's unlike any lesser or butter I've ever seen.

Well, butter/lesser and Mojave are allelic, so perhaps the gun metal eyes can appear in both morphs. She definitely has the coloring of butter/lesser. Killer dorsal too :)

It could be that any of the BEL complex have the ability to have the gun metal grey/blue eyes. It's a neat trait that I don't see too terribly often, makes for a wicked looking snakey that's for sure!

How often are you feeding her? Once a week or once every 5 days? Also, "big mouse" to you could be a normal mouse to me. I like to weigh my snakes/rodents so I know they're getting the 10-15% body weight. Or at least I did in the beginning, now I just eye ball it. Too many snakes to weigh every rat before feeding :P

Get that girl on rats so you don't have to feed 4-5+ mice at a feeding when she's 2kg+! ;)

I think she's got the right coloring for a butter/lesser, and honestly, Butter = Lesser, but that is very much debated in the hobby. She's dark for a butter/lesser, but it could just be your lighting.

Let's put it this way, she's either a dark butter, or a light mojave :P

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I think she's got the right coloring for a butter/lesser, and honestly, Butter = Lesser, but that is very much debated in the hobby. She's dark for a butter/lesser, but it could just be your lighting.

Let's put it this way, she's either a dark butter, or a light mojave :P

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Which is exactly why she needs a Mystic male in her future. :) Either you'll end up with BELs or you'll end up with Mystic Potions - it's a win/win! :gj:

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Which is exactly why she needs a Mystic male in her future. :) Either you'll end up with BELs or you'll end up with Mystic Potions - it's a win/win! :gj:

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Exactly :gj:

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Not sure who told you that, but a butter is a butter, a lesser is a lesser, and a pinstripe is a pinstripe. She has about as much chance to be anything if that's what their expertise told you. There's no way she could be a butter from a lesser x pinstripe pairing - genetics just don't work that way. At best, she could be a lesser (which is incredibly similar to butter) from that pairing, but from the looks of her she's unlike any lesser or butter I've ever seen.

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so then how do you get a butter? I'm just curious. I'm not sure if I heard the pairing right then but I'm almost positive she's a butter. you don't think?

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so then how do you get a butter? I'm just curious. I'm not sure if I heard the pairing right then but I'm almost positive she's a butter. you don't think?

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Butter is a base morph that is very similar to lesser (some argue that they're the same). You get butters from butters. :)

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Originally Posted by RoseyReps

Well, butter/lesser and Mojave are allelic, so perhaps the gun metal eyes can appear in both morphs. She definitely has the coloring of butter/lesser. Killer dorsal too :)

It could be that any of the BEL complex have the ability to have the gun metal grey/blue eyes. It's a neat trait that I don't see too terribly often, makes for a wicked looking snakey that's for sure!

How often are you feeding her? Once a week or once every 5 days? Also, "big mouse" to you could be a normal mouse to me. I like to weigh my snakes/rodents so I know they're getting the 10-15% body weight. Or at least I did in the beginning, now I just eye ball it. Too many snakes to weigh every rat before feeding :P

Get that girl on rats so you don't have to feed 4-5+ mice at a feeding when she's 2kg+! ;)

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I've been feeding her every seven days. she's my first Bp so idk how big is too big! lol she's only almost two months so I just don't wanna over feed and then she expects it every time. but the last one she took like a champ so I am not too worried. I am going to get her started on rats once she's big enough. how big do they seem to be when you eyeball it?

I start mine out on rats personally, but I breed rats so I have access to all sizes. As far as eyeballing, you want it as big around as the thickest part of their body.

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I start mine out on rats personally, but I breed rats so I have access to all sizes. As far as eyeballing, you want it as big around as the thickest part of their body.

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yeah she started on rats but the place by my house says they only have ones that are good for a bigger Bp
the last mouse I gave her was a bit bigger than that but she got it down and didn't have a huge lump so I figured it was okay.

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yeah she started on rats but the place by my house says they only have ones that are good for a bigger Bp
the last mouse I gave her was a bit bigger than that but she got it down and didn't have a huge lump so I figured it was okay.

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A good scale is a useful tool in the snake room for measuring both snakes and food. I still measure all of my rats before feeding to make sure they're appropriate sized (10-15% of snake's last empty weight). I also record the rat's weight on my husbandry charts, but I keep track of everything.

Here's the one that I use: http://www.amazon.com/My-Weigh-7001-...eywords=7001dx.

Looks like a butter/lesser to me, and my butter girl has those metallic like eyes too:

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...psbb6da5dc.jpg