Super form

Quick fitter. If you breed a super form of a gene, does that mean all the babies have at least that gene?

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Yes. :gj:

If you breed any reptile homozygous for a specific trait, than yes, the offspring will be heterozygous for that gene at minimum.

It will have 1 copy of it, yes. :D

That's what I thought but wasn't sure. How much impact does this have on the probability of offspring having the super form in it. For example, if I breed a super pastel lesser to a normal all the offspring will have pastel right. Does this increase the probability(generally speaking) of getting another super pastel or spl?

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Originally Posted by scooter11

That's what I thought but wasn't sure. How much impact does this have on the probability of offspring having the super form in it. For example, if I breed a super pastel lesser to a normal all the offspring will have pastel right. Does this increase the probability(generally speaking) of getting another super pastel or spl?

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A super can not create another super on its own. Super pastel x normal will result in pastel offspring only. Super pastel x pastel would yield pastel, and super pastel offspring. Super pastel x super pastel would yield all super pastel offspring.

Have a look at Mark Mandic's genetics page, it may help you understand this subject better: http://ballpython.ca/what_get/co_dominant.html

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Originally Posted by scooter11

That's what I thought but wasn't sure. How much impact does this have on the probability of offspring having the super form in it. For example, if I breed a super pastel lesser to a normal all the offspring will have pastel right. Does this increase the probability(generally speaking) of getting another super pastel or spl?

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It only increases the probability based on the fact that there's 100% certainty that the gene will be passed along to the offspring from the super parent. It has no bearing on what happens with the other gene that has to come from the other parent to get another super offspring.

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Originally Posted by TJ_Burton

A super can not create another super on its own. Super pastel x normal will result in pastel offspring only. Super pastel x pastel would yield pastel, and super pastel offspring. Super pastel x super pastel would yield all super pastel

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I'm sorry, I write normal, but in my head I was thinking super pastel and a bumblebee.


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Originally Posted by scooter11

I'm sorry, I write normal, but in my head I was thinking super pastel and a bumblebee.


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the difference between super pastel x pastel and super pastel x bee is that in one case half of the snakes will get the spider gene.

and for the odds.... its 25%, 25%, 25% and 25% for each of the 4 possibilities. or 50% and 50% for each of the two possibilities in the case without spider.

and all that can be figured out using a morph calculator :)

having a super pastel and breeding it to a pastel or bee would give you 50% supers and 50% pastels if you dont count the spider gene now breeding a pastel to a pastel or bee would give you 25% supers and 50% pastels and 25% normals again not counting the spider gene so haveing a super would increase your chances of getting a super by 25% over having just a pastel breeding a super to normal would produce all pastels

Male:	Pastel
Female:	Bumblebee
Percent	Fraction	Traits
12.5%	1/8	Killerbee
12.5%	1/8	Super Pastel
25%	1/4	Bumblebee
25%	1/4	Pastel
12.5%	1/8	Spider
12.5%	1/8	Normal
View Results Page

VS

Male:	Super Pastel
Female:	Bumblebee
Percent	Fraction	Traits
25%	1/4	Killerbee
25%	1/4	Super Pastel
25%	1/4	Bumblebee
25%	1/4	Pastel
View Results Page

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Originally Posted by jms0620

having a super pastel and breeding it to a pastel or bee would give you 50% supers and 50% pastels if you dont count the spider gene now breeding a pastel to a pastel or bee would give you 25% supers and 50% pastels and 25% normals again not counting the spider gene so haveing a super would increase your chances of getting a super by 25% over having just a pastel breeding a super to normal would produce all pastels

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That's exactly what I was looking for. Thank you

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Originally Posted by scooter11

That's exactly what I was looking for. Thank you

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That's exactly what I said on the first page, but just didn't include the numbers. Glad you got the help you needed!

Edit: To be completely technical with the numbers, having a super increases your odds of getting another super by 100% (not 25% as stated above) over just having the het version of the gene - from 25% to 50%. ;)

You can always go to World of Ball Pythons and use their genetic calculator. I still do my own "math", but the calculator is nice for looking up possible quick combos.