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  • 07-31-2013, 12:47 AM
    MightyMorphinPythons
    What kind of Morph is Azel?
    I have this beautiful Pastel but she looks like she is more than just a pastel. Please help me figure this out so I have the knowledge and can breed her later!
    P.S. Sorry the images are so huge.

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  • 07-31-2013, 12:53 AM
    The Serpent Merchant
    Looks like a regular pastel to me.
  • 07-31-2013, 12:55 AM
    BlueMoonExotics
    Looks like a gorgeous pastel to me. There's something interesting with her head though and she's quite bright. What was the pairing that produced her?
  • 07-31-2013, 01:22 AM
    MightyMorphinPythons
    Re: What kind of Morph is Azel?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BlueMoonExotics View Post
    Looks like a gorgeous pastel to me. There's something interesting with her head though and she's quite bright. What was the pairing that produced her?

    Im not sure what the parents were because I got her free with no background knowledge. But on the sides of her she has a reddish tint. Is that normal in regular pastels? I have a friend who has had BPs for 20+ years and he swears up and down that she is mixed with something!
  • 07-31-2013, 01:24 AM
    MightyMorphinPythons
    Re: What kind of Morph is Azel?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by The Serpent Merchant View Post
    Looks like a regular pastel to me.

    Do pastels regularly have red on their sides? the pictures i have do no justice. I will add more tomorrow in day light. And her head is completely faded, I was thinking shes a little more.
  • 07-31-2013, 01:35 AM
    Badgemash
    Re: What kind of Morph is Azel?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MightyMorphinPythons View Post
    Do pastels regularly have red on their sides? the pictures i have do no justice. I will add more tomorrow in day light. And her head is completely faded, I was thinking shes a little more.

    Please include a belly shot too if possible.
  • 07-31-2013, 02:31 AM
    Southern_Breeder
    She def just looks like a pretty pastel to me :)
  • 07-31-2013, 04:53 PM
    DG76
    I'm not great at this kind of thing so dont take this as Gospel but to me it looks a lot like a pastel spotnose :rolleye2:


    http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...stel-spotnose/
  • 07-31-2013, 09:48 PM
    galequin
    I see a pastel
  • 07-31-2013, 10:33 PM
    angllady2
    Pastels all have varying amounts of yellow, orange and reddish hues on their sides. The best pastels have bright yellow sides, the brighter the better. As the quality goes down, then the orange and red creeps in. The poorest pastels have deep orange-brown sides, sometimes with a touch of red.

    The reddish hue is not uncommon, although it is hard to find a pastel bright enough for most people to pick out the red. On average I have seen perhaps 2 or 3 with a reddish hue for every 20 or 30 that don't carry any red. It also depends on the age of the baby in question. Very young babies tend to have more of a reddish color than older babies do.

    In your baby I see an exceptional pastel. Lovely faded head, perfect even yellow coloration, superb blushing along the back. An A+ baby for certain.

    Now, do I think there is something else there? Perhaps....but if I am being bluntly honest, I doubt it. The most interesting thing about her to me is the almost un-noticable granite flecking on her sides, combined with the miniscule "granite" break in her neck stripe. Do I think that makes her a granite pastel? Not really. Do I think she's a good pastel for breeding? Absolutely. If I saw her at a reptile show, I'd snap that girl up in a heartbeat.

    Gale
  • 07-31-2013, 10:44 PM
    Daybreaker
    No spotnose pastel there, but I see a very clean regular one! With a cute little beauty mark on her neck too.
  • 08-01-2013, 04:14 AM
    MightyMorphinPythons
    Re: What kind of Morph is Azel?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by angllady2 View Post
    Pastels all have varying amounts of yellow, orange and reddish hues on their sides. The best pastels have bright yellow sides, the brighter the better. As the quality goes down, then the orange and red creeps in. The poorest pastels have deep orange-brown sides, sometimes with a touch of red.

    The reddish hue is not uncommon, although it is hard to find a pastel bright enough for most people to pick out the red. On average I have seen perhaps 2 or 3 with a reddish hue for every 20 or 30 that don't carry any red. It also depends on the age of the baby in question. Very young babies tend to have more of a reddish color than older babies do.

    In your baby I see an exceptional pastel. Lovely faded head, perfect even yellow coloration, superb blushing along the back. An A+ baby for certain.

    Now, do I think there is something else there? Perhaps....but if I am being bluntly honest, I doubt it. The most interesting thing about her to me is the almost un-noticable granite flecking on her sides, combined with the miniscule "granite" break in her neck stripe. Do I think that makes her a granite pastel? Not really. Do I think she's a good pastel for breeding? Absolutely. If I saw her at a reptile show, I'd snap that girl up in a heartbeat.

    Gale

    Wow thank you so much for all that info! im really a big boa guy and never really likes BPs but i absolutely fell in love with her. She is amazing and so kind. Now I have one more question, what do you suggest I breed her with?
  • 08-01-2013, 04:16 AM
    MightyMorphinPythons
    Re: What kind of Morph is Azel?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Badgemash View Post
    Please include a belly shot too if possible.

    Ok, Ill do it tomorrow when the sun is up so that its more natural light.
  • 08-01-2013, 04:36 AM
    MightyMorphinPythons
    Re: What kind of Morph is Azel?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Daybreaker View Post
    No spotnose pastel there, but I see a very clean regular one! With a cute little beauty mark on her neck too.

    I just wanted to compliment your collection, youve got some gorgeous snakes, it inspires me to collect such magnificent animals, that is amazing. Rorscha, Evee, and Attolay are my favorite, well all of your snakes i loved. Congratulations on such a beautiful collection. Rorscha's head pattern is wear I bit my knuckle. I have never seen such gorgeous BPs before.
  • 08-01-2013, 04:49 AM
    BlueMoonExotics
    Re: What kind of Morph is Azel?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MightyMorphinPythons View Post
    Wow thank you so much for all that info! im really a big boa guy and never really likes BPs but i absolutely fell in love with her. She is amazing and so kind. Now I have one more question, what do you suggest I breed her with?

    Breed her with whatever you like. Nobody can really tell you what to like. I'll be breeding my pastels together to make some super pastels but that's because I like them and have a use for them in future projects. Find something you're happy with and could see yourself hanging on to if for whatever reason you can't sell them.
  • 08-01-2013, 09:46 PM
    MightyMorphinPythons
    Re: What kind of Morph is Azel?
    That's very true, but the only thing is I don't know a lot of nice morphs that would be a good mixture with her. I like the idea of doing a super pastel. Its safer but I do like pretty colors and different stuff.
  • 08-01-2013, 09:55 PM
    MightyMorphinPythons
    Re: What kind of Morph is Azel?
    [IMG]http://i1349.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5e4899fb.jpg[/IMG]

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Badgemash View Post
    Please include a belly shot too if possible.

    Heres her belly, what can the belly identify?
  • 08-01-2013, 10:04 PM
    angllady2
    You are welcome.

    Now a pretty girl like that, I'd breed her to a good looking Fire in a heartbeat. The Firefly's she'd make! And a really high gold spider. I'm not crazy about spider's because of the wobble, but I bet that girl would make some sweet bumblebees. And Lesser or Butter, for lesser pastels. Man the yellow her babies should have. OH, speaking of yellow babies, a Yellowbelly male! Oh my goodness the Pastel yellowbellies she'd produce!

    Pretty much any morph you can find that looks good in high yellow, she is likely to make good examples when bred to a good male. So, spend some time over a WOBP looking at the morph list, and you'll have more ideas and plans than you could breed in a lifetime. :D

    Gale
  • 08-01-2013, 10:28 PM
    Bluebonnet Herp
    That's definitely a quality pastel, and I love the saddles in her dorsal pattern!
  • 08-02-2013, 02:49 AM
    MightyMorphinPythons
    Re: What kind of Morph is Azel?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by angllady2 View Post
    You are welcome.

    Now a pretty girl like that, I'd breed her to a good looking Fire in a heartbeat. The Firefly's she'd make! And a really high gold spider. I'm not crazy about spider's because of the wobble, but I bet that girl would make some sweet bumblebees. And Lesser or Butter, for lesser pastels. Man the yellow her babies should have. OH, speaking of yellow babies, a Yellowbelly male! Oh my goodness the Pastel yellowbellies she'd produce!

    Pretty much any morph you can find that looks good in high yellow, she is likely to make good examples when bred to a good male. So, spend some time over a WOBP looking at the morph list, and you'll have more ideas and plans than you could breed in a lifetime. :D

    Gale

    thank you. I will go through WOBP and see what I like. I can't wait for her to have some beautiful babies. Thank you all so much!
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