Lemon blast question

If I breed a male lemon blast to a normal female would I get the same babies as if I bred a female lemon blast to a normal male?

1.1 pastels, 1.0 lesser, 0.1 spider, 1.3 norm. 1.0 fire 0.1 RTB 0.0 sav. Mon.

Yes :)


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You would except that no one would "waste" a valuable 2 genes female with a normal male ;), when you can use the female to hit on a triple or quadruple genes combo instead.

I saw derrick demeyer on you tube say that if you breed a spinner blast to a normal you would get all kinds of different morphs and I have a friend that will sell me a spinner blast male for 250.00 and if I bred him to one of my pastels or normal girls I would get a very cool clutch.

1.1 pastels, 1.0 lesser, 0.1 spider, 1.3 norm. 1.0 fire 0.1 RTB 0.0 sav. Mon.

Have you played around with any of the online calculators available to do virtual pairings? They helped me a ton when first starting to think about ball pythons and help to satisfy my cravings now because actual breeding for me is still a couple of years out.

Just in case you haven't:
http://www.owalreptiles.com/genetics.php
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/wizard/

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Oh yes I have the WOBP genetic wizard I was already browsing and thought I would ask.

1.1 pastels, 1.0 lesser, 0.1 spider, 1.3 norm. 1.0 fire 0.1 RTB 0.0 sav. Mon.

Do not waste a 0.1 Lemonblast with a 1.0 Normal.

Good reading here:

http://ballpythonbreeder.com/2012/02...thon-breeders/

Try to add a third gene man or super size it with a pastel. Mojave, spider, lesser, black pastel...pick one and go with it dude. It's all about improving on what you have not just settling with the normals. You can breed the male with up to 3 females. DO IT!

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Originally Posted by ironpython

I saw derrick demeyer on you tube say that if you breed a spinner blast to a normal you would get all kinds of different morphs and I have a friend that will sell me a spinner blast male for 250.00 and if I bred him to one of my pastels or normal girls I would get a very cool clutch.

1.1 pastels, 1.0 lesser, 0.1 spider, 1.3 norm. 1.0 fire 0.1 RTB 0.0 sav. Mon.

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I did spinnerblast x normal a couple times this year and here is one of the clutches:
http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...32#post2089332

I would definitely go to my pastel 0.1 I was just using that as an example because Eric Demeyer used a 1.0 normal as an example. My question is do the genetics go both ways. If you breed a 1.0 multi gene morph to a female normal won't that be a cheaper way to get multiple morphs cheaper.

1.1 pastels, 1.0 lesser, 0.1 spider, 1.3 norm. 1.0 fire 0.1 RTB 0.0 sav. Mon.

It works the exact same both ways and infact this is how a lot of people get multi gene females that don't feel like breaking the bank with buying them.

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Originally Posted by ironpython

I would definitely go to my pastel 0.1 I was just using that as an example because Eric Demeyer used a 1.0 normal as an example. My question is do the genetics go both ways. If you breed a 1.0 multi gene morph to a female normal won't that be a cheaper way to get multiple morphs cheaper?

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Yes, the genetics work both ways. It just makes more economical sense to a breeder to spread the genes of a more diverse male around to several females than it does to add a single gene male's one gene to your already multi-gene females (unless it's a new crazy expensive morph I guess). Make sense?

I think what all of the replies are trying to say is that you will only get what you give. Sure, breeding a multi-gene male to a normal female will give you multiple morphs cheaply. However, you won't end up with any morphs with genes that you didn't start out with in your male in the first place. This is why everyone is recommending a small investment in a single gene female to add to your collection that you don't already have so you can diversify your results with your multi-gene male. Unless of course your goal is to end up with female animals of the male you already own, then breeding to a normal female makes sense.

Hope this helps!

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I did spinnerblast x normal a couple times this year and here is one of the clutches:
http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...32#post2089332

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This is what I'm talking about, I am just starting and the only females I have besides normals are a pastel breeder and a 2012 spider. My buddy has a male lemon blast he will sell me for 250.00 and she is a year old all ready. This would JumpStart my breeding without spending a lot as I am just starting and my three clutches this season will give me my snake money.

1.1 pastels, 1.0 lesser, 0.1 spider, 1.3 norm. 1.0 fire 0.1 RTB 0.0 sav. Mon.