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  • 06-28-2004, 12:05 PM
    Kara
    Here's daddy, known fondly as the "Golden Child"
    http://newenglandreptile.com/webpics/gchild1.jpg
    http://newenglandreptile.com/webpics/gchild2.jpg

    And some of his kids, which are in the process of hatching today
    http://newenglandreptile.com/webpics/kids1.jpg
    http://newenglandreptile.com/webpics/kids2.jpg
    http://newenglandreptile.com/webpics/kids3.jpg

    Needless to say, we were extremely surprised to see that a good number of the babies look like their father. Now comes the hard part of waiting 3 years to see if there's a "Super Golden." :)

    K
  • 06-28-2004, 12:08 PM
    Marla
    Congratulations, Kara!
  • 06-28-2004, 12:14 PM
    Alkaurkharim
    Wow that is just gorgeous O_O And usually I don't like how retics look, they look EBIL to me ^_^ And man, I knew retics could grow to be the longest snakes in the world, but sheesh, that baby is HUGE O_O
  • 06-28-2004, 12:26 PM
    Stormyva
    That has to be one of the most stunning Retics I have seen since the pics of the "bateater"
    (Wasnt the bateater a Burm/Retic cross though?)
  • 06-28-2004, 12:30 PM
    The_Godfather
    Nice! They kinda remind me of liasis!

    Yeah, borneos were hybrids. I think they were bred back to retic tho.
  • 06-28-2004, 12:31 PM
    The_Godfather
    Edit: borneos are 50/50.
  • 06-28-2004, 12:36 PM
    green_man
    sweeeeeet, those look so nice
    just gotta keep telling myself
    "cant get one, it could eat me"
    "cant get one, it could eat me" ;)
  • 06-28-2004, 01:00 PM
    emroul
    Wasatch Reptile Expo
    VERY cool morph, Kara! Those babies are beautiful (and so is daddy)!
  • 06-28-2004, 01:16 PM
    Kara
    To top it off, the Golden Child is a small snake - only around 8' long or so. The eggs that the babies are hatching out of aren't much bigger than ball python eggs, and we're awaiting locality information from our importer to find out if this just may be another form of dwarf retic.

    K
  • 06-28-2004, 01:27 PM
    Marla
    Do you know the age on the father? Have a pic of the mother? Is she a standard size or dwarf? Good luck on this being a new morph. :)
  • 06-28-2004, 01:43 PM
    MrsMacWin
    Congrats Kara! They are beautiful!!
  • 06-28-2004, 01:50 PM
    Stormyva
    Does that one have the typical retic attitude?
  • 06-28-2004, 02:01 PM
    JLC
    Wow!! Those guys are awesome looking! I hope we get to watch them grow up. And I second Marla's questions! Would love to know more about the breeding and dwarf potential of these guys!
  • 06-28-2004, 02:05 PM
    Kara
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Stormyva
    Does that one have the typical retic attitude?

    Well, the GC is wild caught, so he tends to be a bit flighty & will turn around to bite when you're not expecting it. His babies have all been little sweethearts so far.

    In our experience, "typical retic attitude" is a calm, docile, placid, yet very alert snake that has developed a good rapport & level of trust in humans through consistent, gentle interaction with a dedicated keeper.
  • 06-28-2004, 02:09 PM
    Kara
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Marla
    Do you know the age on the father? Have a pic of the mother? Is she a standard size or dwarf? Good luck on this being a new morph. :)

    Here's Mom - a calico named Penny. She's around 14' in length and a WC that we've had for years.

    http://newenglandreptile.com/webpics/penny.jpg


    Thanks for the kind words! We know for sure it's a new morph, we just don't know whether or not it will throw a super. Here's hoping!

    K
  • 06-28-2004, 02:09 PM
    elevatethis
    Retics are beautiful and horrifying all at the same time. I love giant pythons.....
  • 06-28-2004, 02:12 PM
    JLC
    So are the new babies not only this new morph, but also het for calico? Is the calico feature in retics a recessive trait?
  • 06-28-2004, 02:18 PM
    Kara
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by elevatethis
    Retics are beautiful and horrifying all at the same time. I love giant pythons.....

    How are they horrifying? Everyone seems to have this concept that retics are, big, badass snakes (which they are), that are out to eat everything that moves (which they're not). They are actually very intelligent for snakes, and CBB specimens that are accustomed to people are an absolute joy to work with. Granted, I don't recommend them for every Joe Shmoe who walks in off the street - having the ability to read & understand snake behavior is a MUST when dealing with large constrictors. At the same time, I hate seeing such a negative light *always* cast upon these snakes. It seems they fall victim to a lot of misunderstanding.

    Just my $.02

    K
  • 06-28-2004, 02:24 PM
    elevatethis
    Blue Tongued Skink Q
    Oh no I'm on the exact same page as you...they are beautiful, there's something about their eyes that is just piercing. I meant it in a positive way. And yes, I hate it too that people are so creeped out by snakes, small and large. Most people ask why I keep reptiles...I guess its just hard to explain to people who don't "get it."
  • 06-28-2004, 02:36 PM
    Kara
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by elevatethis
    I guess its just hard to explain to people who don't "get it."

    Couldn't have said it better myself!!!!!!!!!

    K
  • 06-28-2004, 02:50 PM
    gen
    Wow, gorgeous snakes! Congrats.
  • 06-28-2004, 02:51 PM
    Stormyva
    Another gorgeous snake Kara!
  • 06-28-2004, 02:59 PM
    Marla
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KLG
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Marla
    Do you know the age on the father? Have a pic of the mother? Is she a standard size or dwarf? Good luck on this being a new morph. :)

    Here's Mom - a calico named Penny. She's around 14' in length and a WC that we've had for years.

    [Edit: image snipped]

    Thanks for the kind words! We know for sure it's a new morph, we just don't know whether or not it will throw a super. Here's hoping!

    K

    Wow, mama is something else! It looks as if the white scales are almost of a different texture or consistency than the colored scales, though I'm sure that's probably not the case. Very interesting looking, though.

    About the new morph, I got confused when you said
    Quote:

    To top it off, the Golden Child is a small snake - only around 8' long or so. The eggs that the babies are hatching out of aren't much bigger than ball python eggs, and we're awaiting locality information from our importer to find out if this just may be another form of dwarf retic.
    And thought maybe there was some possibility that this was just an unusual variation of a particular locality. My goof. It must be very exciting to watch a new morph hatching out (and a little nerve-wracking waiting on it!). :)
  • 06-28-2004, 03:27 PM
    Alkaurkharim
    I understand what elevate is trying to say about the eyes. Those eyes are just... evil LOOKING, not saying they are evil snakes ^_^ Something about those eyes that says to me "Don't mess with me, or I'll devour your soul!" or something ^_^;;
  • 06-28-2004, 03:33 PM
    The_Godfather
    I think people get the idea that retics are meanies because of the reputation they had a while back, when tons of people had WC specimens. I read this somewhere, back then a ton of tics were WC and mean as could be. So they got a reputation that stuck with them, even till this day.
  • 06-28-2004, 04:00 PM
    Alkaurkharim
    Oh no, I'm not even going by their reputation, to me its all in the eyes ^_^ I know for a fact that CB adult retics are like huge babies ^_^
  • 06-28-2004, 04:01 PM
    Stormyva
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KLG
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by elevatethis
    I guess its just hard to explain to people who don't "get it."

    Couldn't have said it better myself!!!!!!!!!

    K

    I guess you all do have it right there.... I like my Amazons and they probably have a much worse "attitude" than a retic and people ask me why I would want a snake that does nothing but bite :) I say the same thing... "They just dont get it" :)

    The experiences I have had with retics is with poorly cared for ones and ones that are not handled freqeuntly. So it is unfair for me to make an assumption off of those kinds of experiences.
  • 06-28-2004, 04:05 PM
    CTReptileRescue
    What beautiful snakes Kara. Congratulations to you and the NERD Family.
    I love retics. I always feel that they are one of the few snakes that will "stare back at you".
    They seem to be a very intelligent species, they seem to calculate their moves. Do you know what I mean?
    Well once again, beautiful snakes.
    Rusty
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