How limited am I in terms of morph options under$100?

Not into the breeding or anything so I don't care much about sex, but would I have any options beyond normals?

Pastel male and possibly spider male. Your options increase a good bit if you double your budget, though.

Yes, since you don't care about sex then your best bet would be a male. Pastel and spider you can certainly find a 2013 male for under $100. It's possible you might find lesser or mojave too. A local breeder is selling lesser males for $125 so I'm sure you might be able to find one in your price range.

At a show probably Pastel, Spider, Mojave, Cinny (all 2013 all males) and if you are thinking online remember that you will spend about an additional $60 on shipping.

Is there any difference in aggressiveness between M/F?

Also just googling the different morphs doesn't seem to be reliable to get an idea what they look like, although I'm sure some of the differences are subtle, is there a better way to see the various morphs?

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Is there any difference in aggressiveness between M/F?

Also just googling the different morphs doesn't seem to be reliable to get an idea what they look like, although I'm sure some of the differences are subtle, is there a better way to see the various morphs?

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Some snakes are more docile than others. The biggest difference will be size.

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Is there any difference in aggressiveness between M/F?

Also just googling the different morphs doesn't seem to be reliable to get an idea what they look like, although I'm sure some of the differences are subtle, is there a better way to see the various morphs?

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No personality differences between males and females, alothough the males will typically stay a little smaller. Try the Morph List on worldofballpythons.com for more pictures than you will know what to do with. :)

You can also get yellowbelly, fire, and pinstripe males aside from the other morphs mentioned. And possibly a black pastel male. Big possible though....


Go to http://www.worldofballpythons.com/ to look at the various morphs.

Granite looking Animal male if not genetic Should be Under 100 $ as well.... Genetic could be slightly more...

Are pieds under a hundred?? I've heard different prices, from 200 to over 1000 depending on who I talk to...

Cheapest male pieds ive seen are like $400-500

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Are pieds under a hundred?? I've heard different prices, from 200 to over 1000 depending on who I talk to...

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Het pieds are under $100.00 but I haven't seen any actual pieds close to that

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Het pieds are under $100.00 but I haven't seen any actual pieds close to that

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yeah visual pieds, even males, are more than likely going to be more than $400. Definitely no where close to under $100

So Het pieds don't show that trait?

I found this ad, http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=32&de=998579

Thoughts on the two males under 100?

My snake contact recommended I just wait until the reptile show here in Tucson AZ but that isn't until Oct/November, even though it would probably be cheaper, I'm not very patient!

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My snake contact recommended I just wait until the reptile show here in Tucson AZ but that isn't until Oct/November, even though it would probably be cheaper, I'm not very patient!

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Het pied just look normal.

Listen to your contact and wait for a show. With $100 at a show you have a good shot at finding a male hatchling morph that you like. Should be able to get a pastel, spider, pin, fire, cinni, yellowbelly, ect... Even if it is listed for a little more than $100, most prices have a little wiggle room. Breeders are pretty happy to sell off the single gene base morph males as they eat their value much faster than the pricier morphs that are worth holding to get top dollar for.

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How limited am I in terms of morph options under$100?

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Extremely!

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Extremely!

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So helpful!

I agree you a very limited...and probably restricted to males. By why limit yourself? Id recommend looking at pics of various lower end morphs, and save for one that youd like, rather than just settling for whatever balls are under a bill. When your budget goes from $100 to $275 or $300, sooooo many more choices will be available to you. Good luck with whatever you chose....patience is a virtue ;)

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Well I'm not planning on breeding or making this a major hobby so it didn't make much sense to spend a couple bucks just for a specific look. I think all of them are gorgeous too. I wouldn't limit myself to 100 though it was more just to get an idea.

Waiting until October will be really hard. How much does shipping usually run?

And I'd rather have younger rather than older, if I wait for October ill be getting a snake closer to 5 months rather than 2-3 right?

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Well I'm not planning on breeding or making this a major hobby so it didn't make much sense to spend a couple bucks just for a specific look. I think all of them are gorgeous too. I wouldn't limit myself to 100 though it was more just to get an idea.

Waiting until October will be really hard. How much does shipping usually run?

And I'd rather have younger rather than older, if I wait for October ill be getting a snake closer to 5 months rather than 2-3 right?

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That's how everyone starts out lol. You'll probably have breeding plans within a year :) shipping is generally 50-65. You could also try looking for a local breeder, save on shipping.

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Are pieds under a hundred?? I've heard different prices, from 200 to over 1000 depending on who I talk to...

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I think I would cry if I saw pieds under $200.

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So helpful!

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No,just common sense! Do your homework and see just how many different morphs you can purchase for under $100 locally,since shipping is out of the question!So far you've posted pastels,but are they local to you?

Why would shipping be out of the question

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Are pieds under a hundred?? I've heard different prices, from 200 to over 1000 depending on who I talk to...

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Please show a post of a pied for $200!

Maybe up your budget a bit, and check this thread out.
http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showthread.php?p=2040463

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Why would shipping be out of the question

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Because you said UNDER$100! Shipping alone will run $60-$70! Are you saying that you need to be more specific?

I also said

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I wouldn't limit myself to 100 though it was more just to get an idea.

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http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=32&de=997152

I found this guy too, I like his coat. I've never ordered an animal by shipping before though, not sure how skeptical I should be.

How late into the year will breeders have hatchlings? And how young can I get and have them to be on frozen thawed?

Yellowbelly, fire, pastel, maybe a cinny if u can find 1, maybe a spider, pinstripe maybe.:rolleye2:

I got a butter for 180 at the reptile super show last week. You may want to wait until the show, plus it will give you more time to save up! Keep in mind that you need money for the equipment as well!

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http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=32&de=997152

I found this guy too, I like his coat. I've never ordered an animal by shipping before though, not sure how skeptical I should be.

How late into the year will breeders have hatchlings? And how young can I get and have them to be on frozen thawed?

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Nice little enchi male, I like him. Make sure you do research on any breeder. Kingsnake and faunaclassifieds both have feedback forums (KS has a feedback forum, right guys? It's late here...) where you can look up a breeder to find out their reputation.

BTW, here's that guy's BOI (Board of Inquiry) list: http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...archid=3125299 Since it looks like he hasn't had any postings in a while I would work on getting a FC account and inquire on if anybody has done business with him recently.

Some breeders get their babies on F/T right out of the egg. It usually doesn't take much to switch a hatchling over to F/t mice or rats.

no pieds only hets and they look just like norms ... if pieds cost 200$ id own like 10 of them lol ive seen ghost on reptmart for 75$ when they go on sale but with shipping ur looking at 125$

what colors are u into or pattern ? that would help narrow down for u

People typically have hatchlings hatching pretty late in the year. October hatchlings are not uncommon. We are looking at August and September if not October just for babies to hatch and most breeders won't sell a babies until its eating reliably. So at the earliest 3-4 weeks after they hatch. Also to consider is lots of people are saying they are having a late year this year.

If i were you, id go on WOBPs and see the many different morphs/colors you like, make a list of the ones that "speak" to you, and then do some pricing online, as well as here. That will narrow down what you can afford on your "like" list. Its where i found my next two picks. Wanting a hatchling and willing to settle for a male will be on your side because hatchling males will be the cheapest in the bracket for that morph. But like everyone else said, id save for the show....shows are show much fun and worth the wait ;)

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So a reptile show in October may have a plethora of hatchlings?

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I would think so. I went to a show last December and I'd say about 75% of the snakes were hatchling balls. Just about every table had a collection of balls, some bigger than others. I'd try to get to the show as early as possible, before everyone gets to the good stuff :)

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So a reptile show in October may have a plethora of hatchlings?

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Start going to the next one they have!

If you really cant wait until october where you will be sure to get a single gene animal for 100 and 0 shipping i suggest driving up to Phoenix. Christian at Predators Reptile Center in Mesa is a good guy. Ive gotten 2 animals from him now and both are great, the best eaters and good looking... i saw light cinny of his last weekend in San Diego that was beautiful.