New Koi Pond

So my flower bed in my front yard was so bland with old pine bark, wooden dog-ears to edge it, and all dead plants. I wish I had a before picture of everything, but here's a few of my. OU pond install, so much work but it will be worth it when all is finished.

Digging the hole for the liner.
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Installed and back filled the liner. Filled with new cypress mulch and edged with rock.
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Lined the pond with flagstone.
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Wasn't happy, added more flagstone. Need to fix the waterfall a little better.
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Sweet make sure to update when done! Do you live in south so you dont gotta worry bout cold?

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That looks pretty cool!

That looks like the same one I got from lowes. I haven't started mine yet hopefully tomorrow or next weekend.

That looks very nice, especially love the waterfall.

Thanks all. Carlson: I live in Oklahoma so it ranges from 20 degrees to 115 degrees. I'll pull the pump when it gets to be freezing and being open top, it should expand up and not crack the liner.

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Thanks all. Carlson: I live in Oklahoma so it ranges from 20 degrees to 115 degrees. I'll pull the pump when it gets to be freezing and being open top, it should expand up and not crack the liner.

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Do you gotta remove the fish when it gets down to freezing? Or do they just do their fish thing under the ice?

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First, it's spelled koi. Second, it's unprotected in the front yard where a kid could fall in and drown.

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Originally Posted by JohnNJ

First, it's spelled koi. Second, it's unprotected in the front yard where a kid could fall in and drown.

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Yea a kid could, but that's honestly not his fault. It's the moronic parents fault if people don't know how to watch their kids. Unless your kid goes over there to play or something like that, you kid has no business on somebody's property. I wouldn't put a fence up and make my koi pond look tacky because of that, no offense or anything.

I'd be far less concerned with a kid falling in than somebody stealing your fish right out there in the open.

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First, it's spelled koi. Second, it's unprotected in the front yard where a kid could fall in and drown.

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First, don't see the need to point out spelling errors.

Secondly, it's his yard. It doesn't look at all deep, and if you're allowing your children to run all over people's lawns, then it's kind of your own fault.

I could see a fence around a pool, if he had small children around. I don't see the point of a fence around a koi pond that's been outlined in big rocks..


Looks great pigfat. More pictures better be coming once you have fish!

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First, it's spelled koi. Second, it's unprotected in the front yard where a kid could fall in and drown.

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Haha wow dude spelling police really go you. An if it was my pond my resonse to that second part is its not deep you can tell just by looking at it. An if he doesnt have kids of his own where is the worry, its not his responsibility to keep track of neighbor kids their parents can do that and kids need to be taught to stay out of peoples lawns. Parents let their children be unruly an do what they want, then expect us with out them make sure our kid free lives don't get in the way of the monsters. If you can't keep your child from drowing in a koi pond maybe your not parent material.

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I hate to jump in the fray, but he does have legal responsibility if an unattended kid drowns in his man-made pond. Doesn't make it fair or right, but that's how our lovely laws work. My home owners insurance would be thru the roof if my pool didn't have a gated fence, regardless of the fact that there should never be children trespassing in my back yard.

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I hate to jump in the fray, but he does have legal responsibility if an unattended kid drowns in his man-made pond. Doesn't make it fair or right, but that's how our lovely laws work. My home owners insurance would be thru the roof if my pool didn't have a gated fence, regardless of the fact that there should never be children trespassing in my back yard.

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Yea but a pool and a tub of water are different things, and a good lawyer would easily get that case thrown out.

That's like me washing my car with a bucket of water and I go inside to take a break or use the bathroom and a kid comes by and falls in headfirst in the 5 gallon bucket of water that I was washing my car with and drowns. A pool is something different because it's a huge body of water.

I never said it was sensible, or that he should fence the pond, just that that's how the law works at times.

I recovered my password just to post this so i hope everyone enjoys this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A78QiQ61oBM This makes me want to have a kid, just to teach them this. :O btw it's a baby swimming.

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I never said it was sensible, or that he should fence the pond, just that that's how the law works at times.

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Yea, the law can be stupid, especially about a lot of things.

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I recovered my password just to post this so i hope everyone enjoys this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A78QiQ61oBM This makes me want to have a kid, just to teach them this. :O btw it's a baby swimming.

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That's actually quite awesome, I'll have to research that one day when I have kids.

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I recovered my password just to post this so i hope everyone enjoys this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A78QiQ61oBM This makes me want to have a kid, just to teach them this. :O btw it's a baby swimming.

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That is cool gonna have to remeber that. I was just going to make my kids keep life jackets and water wings on when ever they are awake. ;) this seems more pratical

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I am so so sorry I misspelled koi. Second, I don't have kids and there are no kids that live within blocks of my house so I'm not worried at all about someone falling in my 1' 6" pond in my front yard. I appreciate the pessimism though. I live in a pretty nice neighborhood so Im not worried about people stealing fish either, and to be honest I haven't even decided if I am going to put fish in it. I may just go with some goldfish and see how they do...and Walmart has their high-quality koi fish I can always buy lol.

I now picture it as a gold fish pond

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Carlson: I have a neighbor who has had KOI in her pond and even when it froze over they survived under the ice. But worst case scenario I have a couple of large tanks I can put in my garage if its a particularly bad winter.

Once it froze over id have too much fun scraping away the snow and to try and see them swiming under the ice. But im weird an have adhd lol

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I now picture it as a gold fish pond

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Yea, you put goldfish in a pond and see how they over take it. Many people don't realize that cute little small fish get's very large and causes a lot of issues, at least it did in my parents pond or so that's what my dad said. I don't know anything about fish.

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Yea, you put goldfish in a pond and see how they over take it. Many people don't realize that cute little small fish get's very large and causes a lot of issues, at least it did in my parents pond or so that's what my dad said. I don't know anything about fish.

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O ya gold fish get super big. Ive seen some big ones lol. He was talking about them so thats why I said its a gold fish an not koi pond ha. Ive always wanted to find where in the world there are wild gold fish.

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That's really cool!

Me too. Fish typically grow to their enclosure so they will be about 6" long. And a good rule if thumb is a 2 gallons for every inch of fish.

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Once it froze over id have too much fun scraping away the snow and to try and see them swiming under the ice. But im weird an have adhd lol

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Alright everyone, when Carlson goes missing this winter, first check the bottom of all your fish ponds, directly beneath the fresh crust of new ice! ;)

well I'll say the same I always say for anyone tryin to steal any of my animals or break into my house...you try breakin into my house causing me harm or steal any of my things your gonna be hearing the racking sound of my shotgun. In my state we have a stand your ground clause on your property, and even if I don't feel my life is in danger I can fire a warning shot at your feet. teachers neighbor, 17 year old kid tried breakin into his truck, kid said he had a knife, got shot, killed, stand your ground clause didn't go to jail or prison. and he did fire a warning shot

Sorry about the spell check but I raised Japanese Koi and am sensitive to things like getting the name correct.

You are responsible for injuries related to Your pond whether you think so or not. Kids can drown in a few inches of water and that goes for leaving buckets unattended too.

I would be more concerned about animals taking the fish before humans.

In my area ponds are usually kept in backyards. It would be considered poor taste to put it in front or on the side of your house.

None of this matters because you already put it in. Have fun.

and technically koi fish are related to gold fish...they are the biggest gold fish

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and technically koi fish are related to gold fish...they are the biggest gold fish

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So wild gold fish live with wild koi fish? Sorry I'm trapped in a zone of where do wild gold fish live. I could google I guess...

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Alright everyone, when Carlson goes missing this winter, first check the bottom of all your fish ponds, directly beneath the fresh crust of new ice! ;)

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Hey some times you got to look under the ice to be sure the fish haven't gone an done something sneaky while undercover. Someones gotta watch out for the fish revolution. :)


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and technically koi fish are related to gold fish...they are the biggest gold fish

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Koi and goldfish are related and are both a type of carp. Some carp grow to hundreds of pounds so koi are not really the biggest.

But koi are the most expensive. Some show quality koi sell for thousands of dollars as babies. Yes, they have fish shows.

Koi are so cool.. I heard they get eaten by raccoon sometimes though.

Hahah carly you creep.. the koi need SOME privacy! Plus fish food tastes like crap

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Koi are so cool.. I heard they get eaten by raccoon sometimes though.

Hahah carly you creep.. the koi need SOME privacy! Plus fish food tastes like crap

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Psh they want you to think they need privacy. You ever see a do not disturb sign anywhere? I haven't so im gonna disturb!

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Psh they want you to think they need privacy. You ever see a do not disturb sign anywhere? I haven't so im gonna disturb!

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But what if you.. erm.. interrupt something? :&

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But what if you.. erm.. interrupt something? :&

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Then you start making the appropriate theme music. An cheering the home team on!

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I purchased 3 goldfish today! My local pet store was out of KOI so I settled with goldfish. Good thing is that they were already grown out to 6" and only $5. Good starting fish in my opinion.

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I purchased 3 goldfish today! My local pet store was out of KOI so I settled with goldfish. Good thing is that they were already grown out to 6" and only $5. Good starting fish in my opinion.

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Very neat! Keep is updated on how they do!

careful of birds

I'm not too worried about birds, but then again anything could happen.

I'd be more worried about cats than birds.

And where are the pictures?!

Haha I'll get them in the morning! I got them minutes before I had to get ready for work. And I THINk it's far enough down from the rocks that cats won't get to them. My neighbor has had one for years and never had any problem.

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Koi and goldfish are related and are both a type of carp. Some carp grow to hundreds of pounds so koi are not really the biggest.

But koi are the most expensive. Some show quality koi sell for thousands of dollars as babies. Yes, they have fish shows.

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The most expensive Koi ever sold went for $2.2 million dollars. Owning a prized Koi is a symbol of status in Japan and champion Koi go for around $100,000.
This is the $2.2 million Koi named Alexandria. She was the 2008 All Japan Grand Champion, owned by Andrew Fillipowski from the USA according to a quick search. I have no idea how they would crown a champion of being a fish though.

http://www.koimag.co.uk/forum/downlo...2218f1feb80011

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Koi are so cool.. I heard they get eaten by raccoon sometimes though.

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I used to have a small pond with some 8" Goldfish and small Koi. Two separate times I walked out to find an 8" Goldfish eaten almost entirely most likely by raccoon.

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The most expensive Koi ever sold went for $2.2 million dollars. Owning a prized Koi is a symbol of status in Japan and champion Koi go for around $100,000.
This is the $2.2 million Koi named Alexandria. She was the 2008 All Japan Grand Champion, owned by Andrew Fillipowski from the USA according to a quick search. I have no idea how they would crown a champion of being a fish though.

http://www.koimag.co.uk/forum/downlo...2218f1feb80011



I used to have a small pond with some 8" Goldfish and small Koi. Two separate times I walked out to find an 8" Goldfish eaten almost entirely most likely by raccoon.

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Koi fish look awesome always thought that. Didn't know how big of a status they were in Japan. An you make a fish crown an carefully place it on the head and bam you crowned a fish

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Ornamental fish are judged on color, pattern, conformation, and quality.

Some are more rare than others.

I recall reading in my Companion Animal Biology text book a few years ago that it was illegal to own certain mutations because only the Imperial family could back in Feudal Japan.

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Just because....Koi means love in Japanese. So you could also call them Love Fish.

That is a sweet project! It's lookin really good :gj:

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Very neat. I want to one day have a BIG koi pond. I love the butterfly koi, though many don't consider them proper koi.

That looks great. I'd love to do something like that myself, but I'd be tempted to put a turtle in it. Then I'd have to figure out a fence of some kind so they don't walk away. Then I'd also have to figure out how to keep the raccoons out, and what do you do when it rains a lot and it overflows? Sounds like a lot of work but I'd still like to try it some day. Good Job. :gj: