two ball pythons one tank

can two ball pythons be kept in one tank if it is large enough?

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Annnnnnnnnd away we go....

HAHA!! Yeah...


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From what ive heard you could have multiple Bps but would need a very large enclousure for TWO Bps to be able to "avoid" each other. Its not recommended and single housed snakes seem to do fine without any roommates so I would stay stick to just 1 snake per enclousure.

Before everyone jumps on your case, no. Lol unless you're breeding (and then only for a short period of time) or if you have a really big tank with a solid(and I mean SOLID) divider. Buy two tubs from walmart, they'll run you about $12 total. There's tons of tutorials on getting them set up here. Shows over, folks!

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While it is possible it is not recommended.

Search the forum. This has been argued many times.

Here is a kinda recent one.

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...g-BPs-Together

Yea, I would honestly not do it, just because they can irritate each other, but I know some people have done it in the past and if not mistaken the July or August issue of Reptiles Magazine a girl wrote that she's always housed two BP's together and so on, I won't get into the story but me personally I wouldn't do it, unless I was trying to breed them and it's only so they can pair up and then it's back to being solo.

I won't say go search like other people because I remember when I was new on some other forums and I'd ask a question and everybody was like: learn to search, use your search function, blah blah... I always took offense to it because most of the time it can be a simple yes or no and in this case it is. Then if you want to know why it would be okay for somebody to say go search.

BTW, I didn't mean anything to the people above that said to search, I was just letting you know how it may feel to other people, and then we potentially lose a member who could of done great things or contributed in many ways. Just I try not to make somebody feel stupid for asking a question.

Define "large enough". Africa is a big place.

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Yea, I would honestly not do it, just because they can irritate each other, but I know some people have done it in the past and if not mistaken the July or August issue of Reptiles Magazine a girl wrote that she's always housed two BP's together and so on, I won't get into the story but me personally I wouldn't do it, unless I was trying to breed them and it's only so they can pair up and then it's back to being solo.

I won't say go search like other people because I remember when I was new on some other forums and I'd ask a question and everybody was like: learn to search, use your search function, blah blah... I always took offense to it because most of the time it can be a simple yes or no and in this case it is. Then if you want to know why it would be okay for somebody to say go search.

BTW, I didn't mean anything to the people above that said to search, I was just letting you know how it may feel to other people, and then we potentially lose a member who could of done great things or contributed in many ways. Just I try not to make somebody feel stupid for asking a question.

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Very well (not to mention kindly) put!!

I'm wondering if ANYONE can give a simple yes or no answer without extrapolating endlessly on their personal point of view.

The OP did not ask why or why not, simply if it could be done.

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I'm wondering if ANYONE can give a simple yes or no answer without extrapolating endlessly on their personal point of view.

The OP did not ask why or why not, simply if it could be done.

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No they didn't, but a simple yes or no would suffice. If he replied asking why not or something then it would of been more appropriate to say try to search as the topic as been discussed before. I'm just thinking outside of the box, which it would do good for a lot of people. Simple things like that can avoid offending people or hurting their feelings and would help the site grow more. That person just registered today and one of the first experiences you want them to have is a negative one, and it may of been the last time they asked advice or came to the site.

Let me put it retrospect:
I ask about housing two BP's together and I get all these people telling me to learn to search, or go use search function or whatever the case may be. So I as a new member feel like I was just disregarded and that for asking a simple question people were quite rude so I don't use the site anymore and I keep the BP's together. Then an issue happens or something happens and one of the snakes die while in my care so I stop keeping snakes(congrats there is another person out of the hobby that could of contributed to great things). Then I know other people that have snakes and they have questions and ask me because they knew I used to keep snakes, well I tell them not to go to that BP.net site because members were really rude to me and made me feel stupid when I asked a question, so I tell the other people to not even bother with that site(congrats again, there goes a few members, and possibly a few dead snakes from improper husbandry).

Well of those few people that could of been great members, contributed lots of things over the years, or that one person that asked that question about housing snakes together could be the person that would of made the difference in passing a law about snakes or what not.

All I'm saying is that us as veteran members take the time out to try to help people, instead of disregarding them and telling them to go search something, why not search it for them? We know how to navigate the site better then any of them so we know how to find what they're looking for, and they may of tried to search something, and maybe misspelled something in the search and they came up with no results, who knows? The saying two heads are better than one was a wise saying. How hard is it to say, yes or no to that question that was asked, or even to go into a detail briefly. No I wouldn't house them together because it can irritate them and even with a large enough enclosure, we'd be talking about something the size of a room in a house and then you'd have issues with heating. That section in bold is a simple 38 words which took me all of two minutes at most to type and it answers the question. Think outside the box, put yourself in the other persons shoes.

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I'm wondering if ANYONE can give a simple yes or no answer without extrapolating endlessly on their personal point of view.

The OP did not ask why or why not, simply if it could be done.

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Yes. The answer is yes, it can be done.

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No I wouldn't house them together because it can irritate them and even with a large enough enclosure, we'd be talking about something the size of a room in a house and then you'd have issues with heating. That section in bold is a simple 38 words which took me all of two minutes at most to type and it answers the question. Think outside the box, put yourself in the other persons shoes.

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How would you know if they were irritated? Would they tell you?

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How would you know if they were irritated? Would they tell you?

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When they stop feeding and get really aggressive then it wouldn't need to be said. Also I said it can irritate them, I never said it will.

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No they didn't, but a simple yes or no would suffice. If he replied asking why not or something then it would of been more appropriate to say try to search as the topic as been discussed before. I'm just thinking outside of the box, which it would do good for a lot of people. Simple things like that can avoid offending people or hurting their feelings and would help the site grow more. That person just registered today and one of the first experiences you want them to have is a negative one, and it may of been the last time they asked advice or came to the site.

Let me put it retrospect:
I ask about housing two BP's together and I get all these people telling me to learn to search, or go use search function or whatever the case may be. So I as a new member feel like I was just disregarded and that for asking a simple question people were quite rude so I don't use the site anymore and I keep the BP's together. Then an issue happens or something happens and one of the snakes die while in my care so I stop keeping snakes(congrats there is another person out of the hobby that could of contributed to great things). Then I know other people that have snakes and they have questions and ask me because they knew I used to keep snakes, well I tell them not to go to that BP.net site because members were really rude to me and made me feel stupid when I asked a question, so I tell the other people to not even bother with that site(congrats again, there goes a few members, and possibly a few dead snakes from improper husbandry).

Well of those few people that could of been great members, contributed lots of things over the years, or that one person that asked that question about housing snakes together could be the person that would of made the difference in passing a law about snakes or what not.

All I'm saying is that us as veteran members take the time out to try to help people, instead of disregarding them and telling them to go search something, why not search it for them? We know how to navigate the site better then any of them so we know how to find what they're looking for, and they may of tried to search something, and maybe misspelled something in the search and they came up with no results, who knows? The saying two heads are better than one was a wise saying. How hard is it to say, yes or no to that question that was asked, or even to go into a detail briefly. No I wouldn't house them together because it can irritate them and even with a large enough enclosure, we'd be talking about something the size of a room in a house and then you'd have issues with heating. That section in bold is a simple 38 words which took me all of two minutes at most to type and it answers the question. Think outside the box, put yourself in the other persons shoes.

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You ASSume much.

The flip side of that coin, which for me is still tumbling midair, is that spoonfeeding a newb sets them up for further pablum pushing. It's not rude to ask or tell someone to use the search function, which, if I recall correctly, I did not do. In fact, I made no inference one way or the other in this instance.

You ASSume that this person will be put off, but, were I to make an ASSumption of my own, I would tend to think they would be appreciative of the candor and forthrightness of being informed that the asked for information is readily available, that they would appreciate being treated as an adult and being informed that this is a well discussed topic in no need of regurgitation for one newbs edification.



Perhaps this is simply another troll looking for food. That is exactly as likely as your "new law" writer theory.

If you are put off by a simple answer to an oft asked and oft discussed question, then perhaps you are too tender to play on the internet.

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When they stop feeding and get really aggressive then it wouldn't need to be said. Also I said it can irritate them, I never said it will.

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Any personal experience here or .... perish the thought, are you regurging what you've read on the net?

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When they stop feeding and get really aggressive then it wouldn't need to be said. Also I said it can irritate them, I never said it will.

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These don't really seem logical. Some of mine go off feed and some can be aggressive. I keep all mine separate.

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These don't really seem logical. Some of mine go off feed and some can be aggressive. I keep all mine separate.

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x2. mine are housed separate and my husbandry is spot on and only 2 of mine have eaten in the past couple weeks. gotta love picky BPs.

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Any personal experience here or .... perish the thought, are you regurging what you've read on the net?

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Well when I say irritated I meant stressed, just a wrong choice of words. It's common sense that a stressed animal can become aggressive or go off feeding. Though they can do either or. I'm just saying.

You and I have never got along so you're ASSume thing trying to be sneaky only makes you look like a pansy. I'll have the balls to say if you want to throw around insults I'll give you my address so you can say it to my face. Go ahead and give me the infraction now.

double post

while I do know there is a search function I prefer not to use it. IK that I may be asking a question that already has an answer, but I feel if I have my own thread specifically for me, I can better communicate and become a member of the community. For example I could of used the search to find out about albino pythons, but when I made my own , I was approached in a personal message by someone who sells albino ball pythons for much cheaper then the site I was going for. When people tell me to just use the search, I feel like they are trying to avoid me and being a part of the community, no offense to anybody:bow: I bow down to all of your superior knowledge on snakes lol

Hahaha. Like wilomn would leave his front porch for a rapscallion like you!

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Hahaha. Like wilomn would leave his front porch for a rapscallion like you!

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I can't help cowardice. Anyways if you're going to work off your mouth for him then that's on you.

I can help cowardice, just give him courage. Meowwww

A ball python can be kept in your sock drawer. Doesn't mean it's the best option though. Do your homework and decide for yourself.

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Well when I say irritated I meant stressed, just a wrong choice of words. It's common sense that a stressed animal can become aggressive or go off feeding. Though they can do either or. I'm just saying.

You and I have never got along so you're ASSume thing trying to be sneaky only makes you look like a pansy. I'll have the balls to say if you want to throw around insults I'll give you my address so you can say it to my face. Go ahead and give me the infraction now.

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Sonnyjim, you ain't the first by far to invite me to your home. As I've told them, some just don't meet MY standards for hanging out.

You also seem to have ASSumed that I'm a mod. Wrong. Again. I suppose you're used to it though. You may want to brush up on the sarcasm, Mike is wayyyyy better.

Also, if YOU say one thing but mean another, how is it my fault that I gave you the credit for being smart enough to write what you thought? I mean come on, benefit of the doubt and all that, right? Maybe if YOU were smarter, YOU wouldn't be looking quite so much the fool now. That is, IF you're able to see that you're made a fool of yourself with your grandiose posturing, which I am now inclined to doubt you are.

OP, as has been stated, you can if you wish, you may not want to if you're new to snakes, some will back one camp, some another, some will simply sit and watch an old man toss balls to the kids in his yard knowing that sooner or later he'll release the hounds, much to the amusement of all except those whose britches need a new seat; ie neal.

Its possible. But not recommended for new keepers.

I personally have housed 2 females of the same age and size together for a little less than a year as a personal experiment last year. Never had issues with either being aggressive or going off feed. Both grew 600-900g each and are my strongest feeders in fact.

They're housed individually before and after the study.

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Sonnyjim, you ain't the first by far to invite me to your home. As I've told them, some just don't meet MY standards for hanging out.

You also seem to have ASSumed that I'm a mod. Wrong. Again. I suppose you're used to it though. You may want to brush up on the sarcasm, Mike is wayyyyy better.

Also, if YOU say one thing but mean another, how is it my fault that I gave you the credit for being smart enough to write what you thought? I mean come on, benefit of the doubt and all that, right? Maybe if YOU were smarter, YOU wouldn't be looking quite so much the fool now. That is, IF you're able to see that you're made a fool of yourself with your grandiose posturing, which I am now inclined to doubt you are.

OP, as has been stated, you can if you wish, you may not want to if you're new to snakes, some will back one camp, some another, some will simply sit and watch an old man toss balls to the kids in his yard knowing that sooner or later he'll release the hounds, much to the amusement of all except those whose britches need a new seat; ie neal.

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Wow, are you that stupid? I know you're not a mod, I just figure I'll get an infraction for making you out to be the moron. We've hit heads before and I know I'll probably get an infraction, the thought if you even thinking that I thought you were a mod shows that you lack a lot of common sense. I've not made a fool of myself, and I never said you even said anything about searching for posts, I just honestly don't like you, and it's not that I hate you, Everybody knows what I meant, the only thing I was trying to type a little quicker because I was on my cell phone at the time and I don't have the tapatalk app so sometimes the forum seems to be difficult. I wasn't be sarcastic in the littlest either, I made my statement bold and clear. I don't like you, I never did. you're a cocky little punk in which type I deal with in the jail I work at everyday. The only difference is that someday you're going to run that little wisecrack mouth of yours off to the wrong person and it's going to get your head cracked open. Grow up and stop with your little sneak attacks.

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Wow, are you that stupid? I know you're not a mod, I just figure I'll get an infraction for making you out to be the moron. We've hit heads before and I know I'll probably get an infraction, the thought if you even thinking that I thought you were a mod shows that you lack a lot of common sense. I'm just saying you're ASSume comments are trying to be your way of little sneaky attacks, I simply said come to my house that way you can be "sneaky" and I can break your jaw, it's simple logistics really. I've not made a fool of myself, and I never said you even said anything about searching for posts, I just honestly don't like you, and it's not that I hate you, I'm just saying if you were burning alive and I had a cup of water then I'd pour the cup of water on the ground. Everybody knows what I meant, the only thing I was trying to type a little quicker because I was on my cell phone at the time and I don't have the tapatalk app so sometimes the forum seems to be difficult. I wasn't be sarcastic in the littlest either, I made my statement bold and clear. I don't like you, I never did. you're a cocky little punk in which type I deal with in the jail I work at everyday. The only difference is that someday you're going to run that little wisecrack mouth of yours off to the wrong person and it's going to get your head cracked open. Grow up and stop with your little sneak attacks.

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lol...it's gettin' real up in here!!! And the second comment is a bit harsh, don't you think? I'm not a fan of wilomn either, but I'd probably put him out if he was on fire. Seems like the right thing to do...:D

neal, you're too tough for me. I guess beating up prisoners, no doubt with the backing of your uniformed brothers, has given you a sense of inflation, both north and south.

Making excuses for stupidity, blaming your inability to communicate on a machine, well, that's stupid. As Mr. Gump said, stupid is neal, er as stupid does.

Now, back on topic, OP, got any further questions? Neal's not smart enough to know how stupid he is, but he is stupid enough to feel threatened by his betters, which you, and almost everyone else to ever grace this site, must be since he is one of a very few to actually think violence is the way to treat those obviously smarter than he is. It's a shame really, but we all make choices and ol neal there, he apparently, I'm just ASSuming here, makes stupid ones on a regular basis.

It's also rather stupid to make posts you know will get you infracted, like personal threats, just for the bragging rights of being stupid enough to make posts you know will get you infracted.

Someone else will have to explain it to him though, he's not smart enough to figure it out for himself if his posts are any indication of his reading comprehension.

Wilomn is old so that the "someday your mouth will get you in trouble" comment isn't really applicable to him. I'm sure that day has already come and gone. More than once haha.

Also, i'm wondering, do I have to be a prisoner for you to break my jaw when i say something you don't like? Or does a man of your standing get to break anyones jaw who utters something that you don't wanna hear?

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Wilomn is old so that the "someday your mouth will get you in trouble" comment isn't really applicable to him. I'm sure that day has already come and gone. More than once haha.

Also, i'm wondering, do I have to be a prisoner for you to break my jaw when i say something you don't like? Or does a man of your standing get to break anyones jaw who utters something that you don't wanna hear?

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heh heh heh

You have learned well, Young One.

Zing!!!

Oh for the love of Mike!