Threw a male to the female.. giving it a try

i have a female normal which is in 1500 grams and a male ready to bread, eventhough its not the season i threw the male to the female thinking 'whats the worst thing could happen'...
now i want them to breed, not counting on that but still hoping
so i know i need to put the male with the female for a few days and then get him back to his cage for a few days or something like that, can anyone explain what should i do with the male? how many days should i put him with the female and what not?

There is no "season" for breeding them, really. 3 in, 3 out is what i did.

Please don't "throw them together" again until you've fully researched the whole process, including egg and hatchling care. :(

i know how to care for eggs and hatchlings, and i knew i should put the male for something between 3 days and a week, i even have an incubator cause i breed leopard geckos too
and back to the topic - in the 3 days the male is in his cage, i need to feed him again? or just let him rest?

Day 1-3 = male in with female (unless I see him unlock after day 1 or 2...then I go ahead and put him back in his tub)
Day 4 = offer food to the male (the male may go off feed)
Day 5-7 = rest/digestion for the male.

Repeat.

sounds good!
just a little update - the female looks like she wants it bad and the male looks like he doesnt know what to do. its the first time for both of them they are seeing other BP's
i think i'll put him in his tank tomorrow cause i dont see any locks.

I forgot so ask something else - do i need to keep on feeding the female?

Why didn't you thoroughly research all of this beforehand? I'm definitely no breeder, but these seem like very basic, general questions with simple answers that you should have looked into before even considering 'throwing these two together.'

Yes, continue to feed both animals weekly as long as they will accept food. Make sure they are separate when you offer.

thanks
and here you go, i have all the information i need

How big is your male? Some males don't know "how" to breed and it takes them a while to figure things out. However, they turn into breeding machines (just like my lesser male...it took him about a month to figure things out). It could also be that your male isn't sexually mature. Or, is your male actually male? Just some other things to consider.

Just because you don't see locks doesn't necessarily mean they aren't locking.

im not really sure whats the weight of the male, i guess around 600 grams
here he is compared to the female (pinstripe male, normal female) and she is just over 1500 grams
and yeah he is a male for sure
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I think I'd wait for the male to be a bit bigger before putting him to a female, personally; and I know once I start breeding, I'm going to make sure she's at least 1700 before putting a male to her. Just seems less risky with more size on her.

Plus putting some weight on the both of them gives you a little more time to research.

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Originally Posted by Salingreptiles

im not really sure whats the weight of the male, i guess around 600 grams
here he is compared to the female (pinstripe male, normal female) and she is just over 1500 grams
and yeah he is a male for sure

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He's a small, first time breeder. Give him a few weeks to figure it out. Even then, he might not be ready. I have a 650g male that I'm currently trying to breed and I've not witnessed locks in months. Keep pairing and he'll figure it out eventually.

ok i said in the begining - im not counting on anything, just giving it a try
correct me if im wrong, but i heard about 400-500 grams males which are breeding and that this is not something rare
right now the male and the female are like curled around each other, hope to get something from it, if not, nothing happened

as another person said don't throw them together until you'v done the research and i do think there's a breeding season for them:snake: enjoy your snake :pinkele: and happy breeding:carrot::dance:
(Ps do you know were i can find an eastern ribbon snake? i can't find any where:confuzd:)

Thanks
and for all those who tells me to do more research -
i agree i didnt did enough research about the breeding proccess but actually i already knew i should put the males for 3 days with the female and 3 days alone, but i've seen alot of different ways so i wanted to ask for the last time cause i've seen people who said to put the male 2 weeks with the female and 2 weeks alone, or 1 week in and 1 week out, and people who said i should not feed the female that time..
what im trying to say is that ive seen alot points of view but i wanted to ask for the last time just to know which way to choose..
for all the rest - i know how to care for hatchlings and for eggs, i have a working incubator and a hatchling rack (which been used for leopard geckos right now), and im not just from one of those who buys a pair of ball pythons and throw them together. i bought the male about 1.5 months ago and waited till the female (which i got 1.5 years ago) got to 1500 grams, eventualy a friend (who sold to me the male) told me to try and put them together just to see if something happens, and if so, to start doing the breeding proccess.

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Originally Posted by Salingreptiles

ok i said in the begining - im not counting on anything, just giving it a try
correct me if im wrong, but i heard about 400-500 grams males which are breeding and that this is not something rare
right now the male and the female are like curled around each other, hope to get something from it, if not, nothing happened

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Yes, some males can breed in that range. I have a lesser male that has been breeding since about 450g. However, the pewter that I was talking about has been paired since he was the same size (with plugs) and he's now pushing 700g and still not locking. Just because they can be sexually mature and ready to breed doesn't always mean they will.

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Originally Posted by Salingreptiles

Thanks
and for all those who tells me to do more research -
i agree i didnt did enough research about the breeding proccess but actually i already knew i should put the males for 3 days with the female and 3 days alone, but i've seen alot of different ways so i wanted to ask for the last time cause i've seen people who said to put the male 2 weeks with the female and 2 weeks alone, or 1 week in and 1 week out, and people who said i should not feed the female that time..
what im trying to say is that ive seen alot points of view but i wanted to ask for the last time just to know which way to choose..
for all the rest - i know how to care for hatchlings and for eggs, i have a working incubator and a hatchling rack (which been used for leopard geckos right now), and im not just from one of those who buys a pair of ball pythons and throw them together. i bought the male about 1.5 months ago and waited till the female (which i got 1.5 years ago) got to 1500 grams, eventualy a friend (who sold to me the male) told me to try and put them together just to see if something happens, and if so, to start doing the breeding proccess.

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Now, I've been pretty quiet about my personal views on your education level when it comes to breeding. However, this post makes it sound like you are very arrogant and only want people's opinions if they follow your own. It sounds like you don't want to hear people tell you to do more research or to make sure you're ready to care for babies, etc. However, it sounds like you need to listen to that advice because you haven't expressed competency in breeding. I know it's your first time (it's my first season breeding too), but some of the things you're asking make it seem like you have the attitude of "let me just throw my snakes together any which way and horray if I get babies!" without being prepared for the babies or the financial (will you be able to sell the babies? what if you can't sell them? Can you afford to feed all the babies for months?) and emotional tole (from learning patience...I know I struggle with this too) that breeding will have on you.

I urge you to listen to all the advice from people on this forums. We are not only looking out for you, but also your snakes and the babies will come from them. We aren't trying to be mean, but we certainly aren't going to sugarcoat things so you don't have all the information available too you. If you've come to this forum to just get someone to agree with you, then this is not the place.

Well said, Breanna.

Speaking from personal experience, I have learned a LOT from lurking the forums and seeking the answers that I need without directly asking them. All of the answers that you've been given can easily be found on a quick scan of the BP Breeding section of the forum. I'm not breeding yet, but I'm making sure I have every single piece of information I need BEFORE I put a male and female together to see if they'll make a lock at all.

It's not your ability we're questioning, it's your knowledgeability. These are very basic, need-to-know things before placing a male and female together. Having an incubator does not equate to being ready for eggs. Your snakes having size does not equate to them being ready for breeding, as BHR has evidenced with her pewter boy. There are a lot of precautions to take before throwing pairs together, and it may just not be the right time or place for you to begin breeding yet, if you still have these types of questions.

i don't want to discourage you from asking your questions, by all means please do-- there are many experienced breeders on here who are here for just that purpose. But the time to ask these questions is not when you're attempting to pair your snakes, but well before you even place them together.

Of course im listening to you guys! this is why im asking things in the first place!