so mad

So i bought a zoomed snake kit and tank for the new guy i got today and within hours the light fixrure stoped working. Thank god i bought a uth so he can atleasr get belly heat over night till i can get another one romarrow

Make sure you have a thermostat for the uth they can get extra hot with out it an you dont want a burn. I dont use lights for my balls if you can get the temps right with just a uth do that itll save you an be easier on humidity

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I do. But come to find out when the lamp shorted it shorted the temp controller and uth so i had to house to of my some sized snakes in same tank over night. The tank has three hides on hot side and two on cool so they didn't have to fight over best spot. Lol.

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I do. But come to find out when the lamp shorted it shorted the temp controller and uth so i had to house to of my some sized snakes in same tank over night. The tank has three hides on hot side and two on cool so they didn't have to fight over best spot. Lol.

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Next time, your snake will be fine in a tank by itself until you can get a new thermostat or light. Cohabbing snakes is never a great idea. One night without heat won't hurt your snake.

I would also argue that cohabbing a similarly sized snake overnight won't hurt, either...and depending on where you live, night temps can be dangerous.

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I would also argue that cohabbing a similarly sized snake overnight won't hurt, either...and depending on where you live, night temps can be dangerous.

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If they're the same sex or aren't breeding size, i would put them in the tank together rather than leave them without heat. My temps drop pretty low at nite tho.

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I would also argue that cohabbing a similarly sized snake overnight won't hurt, either...and depending on where you live, night temps can be dangerous.

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Cannibalism in snakes can take no time. And size doesn't always matter, snakes have died trying to eat another.

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Cannibalism in snakes can take no time. And size doesn't always matter, snakes have died trying to eat another.

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Yes, I do know that, but ball pythons are generally not known for cannibalism. Not saying it hasn't happened! I know it has. But it's not like we're talking about kingsnakes here. I'm just saying, in my personal opinion, that I would rather two similarly sized ball pythons cohab for 8 hours than risk a cold night with no heat. I mean, 8 hours is shorter than most people put them together to breed.

Not to mention to OP made sure they had plenty of places to escape one another, not like they were crammed together.

I am in NO WAY advocating for cohabbing, I'm simply stating an opinion.

My wife keeps it at a steady 65 degrees in the house during summer so the snakes have to have heat in my house.

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My wife keeps it at a steady 65 degrees in the house during summer so the snakes have to have heat in my house.

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You poor, poor man.

I love cold weather. Feels nice to me. Lol.i was just worried about the little guy.

I love it but its not good for snakes so i make sure there tanks are up to par with heat and humidity. Humidity is a pain with a cold house so i got a frogger. Lol

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My wife keeps it at a steady 65 degrees in the house during summer so the snakes have to have heat in my house.

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Holy cow between the AC and the UTH's or heat tape running, your electric bill must be insanely high! I keep mine at 78 to cut the electric bill.

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You poor, poor man.

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I don't understand this response. It came off as sarcastic and patronizing.

The electric bills only 50 bucks a month. I thought it would be higher too sense we have got some more snakes and a pack man frog. We are up to three bps and a frog so far. Lol

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I don't understand this response. It came off as sarcastic and patronizing.

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The way I took it is that the wife keeps the temps cool, which I totally get! The wife controls all haha

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I don't understand this response. It came off as sarcastic and patronizing.

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Did it?? I'm sorry, seriously didn't mean it that way. I was just teasing. My grandparents were like that...She kept things icy, and he was a tiny little old man, and would sit in his own living-room in mittens and a vest in July. :P It just reminded me of that, haha.

And it was pretty genuine; I like things toasty!

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I don't understand this response. It came off as sarcastic and patronizing.

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I think you nailed it with the first sentence. There was nothing wrong with the post.


To the OP, I think you did the right thing sticking them together given the ambient temp of your house. Depending on what caused the short you may want to run things on a surge protector, if you aren't already.

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I'm just saying, in my personal opinion, that I would rather two similarly sized ball pythons cohab for 8 hours than risk a cold night with no heat. I mean, 8 hours is shorter than most people put them together to breed.

Not to mention to OP made sure they had plenty of places to escape one another, not like they were crammed together.

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If the OP didn't have the option of a second tank available - say you only have one BP and the power is out - an alternative is to put the snake into a tub with a lockable lid and ventilation holes on the sides, and put it in the bed with you. It wouldn't be ideal, but it should survive the night.

I always put something over the top of my uth heaters (especially important if you don't have a thermostat right now) so my snakes are not directly on it, and then put substrate over that. For example a piece of slate tile, rubber shelf liner stuff you get at walmart, reptile carpet; something with a slight barrier so the snake can still get heat but not burn himself. Ball pythons don't require overhead lights.

I have about 300 bucks worth of gear for back bp tank I have lol. Temp controllers for heat.pad and lamps. And two probes to monitor heat on both cold and hot side. I was just mad cause a faulty lamp messed up a temp controller and heat pad. Hydrofarms don't come cheap. Lol.

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Hydrofarms don't come cheap. Lol.

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It's the Herpstats that will get ya!

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I think you nailed it with the first sentence. There was nothing wrong with the post.


To the OP, I think you did the right thing sticking them together given the ambient temp of your house. Depending on what caused the short you may want to run things on a surge protector, if you aren't already.

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I thought she was referring to him doing extra work, as in telling him not to complain about having to do extra work. I didn't realize she meant it about him having to be in a cold house.

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I thought she was referring to him doing extra work, as in telling him not to complain about having to do extra work. I didn't realize she meant it about him having to be in a cold house.

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:confusd: Where did you even get the extra work bit? All that he said in the post was that his wife keeps it cold in the house so the snakes need the heat. Neither of them said anything about doing work of any sort in either of those posts...

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:confusd: Where did you even get the extra work bit? All that he said in the post was that his wife keeps it cold in the house so the snakes need the heat. Neither of them said anything about doing work of any sort in either of those posts...

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The work being that he has to deal with a problem with faulty products and a cold house. If the house was not cold, he might not even have to deal with what to do with them for the time being.

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The work being that he has to deal with a problem with faulty products and a cold house. If the house was not cold, he might not even have to deal with what to do with them for the time being.

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So you snapped at her about something you just completely made up in your head... Neither of them even suggested it was work to deal with the temps and equipment. :rolleyes:

Hey guys. Can you all do me a little favor and back down on the tension a little bit? I'm sure Jasonmcgilvrey83 just wants to have a nice discussion about his new snake without the off topic misunderstandings. Thanks all, I'd really appreciate it. :D

Yeah I took no affence or thought they were being sarcastic. Lol.