Enchis....your thoughts

Well I went to the Tampa repticon on Saturday will the intent on purchasing a Firefly female. Only saw 2 in the whole show. They were very nice looking animals, but I came home with a female Enchi. Enchi was really not even on my wish list, but this was the nicest one there.

My question is, what are your thoughts on the Enchis in general? I have a few years until she breeds, but I'm thinking a Pastave or Bumblebee for first breeding....or maybe Pied.

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It took me a long time to finally get an enchi.

But seeing what it brings to combo's - even recessives like pied, albino etc finally tipped the balance for me.

It even makes a champagne combo I like. :P

I think enchis are awesome. I was originally going to put mine with my lesser pastel, but after seeing a albino enchi, Im going to put her with my lavender. I also like hypo enchis and enchi clowns

I believe it is one of the most necessary genes for any collection! I love enchi!

I love enchi and what it does. Good call picking one up!

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Originally Posted by DooLittle

I love enchi and what it does. Good call picking one up!

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Yeah, I keep telling myself that, but I'm still thinking about those Fireflies! There's always next time...

I am still looking for my Enchi. I want one so badly, I love what they look like when you find a great example, and what they do to combo's is ridiculous! But I am very picky, and so far when I have money I cannot find an enchi to suit me. When I'm flat broke, everybody has enchi's I'd buy. :rolleyes:

Firefly's are sweet, that is true. But an exceptional enchi doesn't happen often, and if you got a good one you will always be glad you did.

Gale

Get both! Fireflies are tough to do right :gj:. Enchis are too, but you'll find a nice enchi before you find the nicest firefly :gj:. I think enchis have more going on than a first glance allows. They look cooler as they age which is more than you can say about almost every other morph :gj:. They combo well with almost everything, including recessives as well as morphs that normally don't combo well. There's a super form that can boost color and reduce the pattern which most people love :P.

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Originally Posted by angllady2

I am still looking for my Enchi. I want one so badly, I love what they look like when you find a great example, and what they do to combo's is ridiculous! But I am very picky, and so far when I have money I cannot find an enchi to suit me. When I'm flat broke, everybody has enchi's I'd buy. :rolleyes:

Firefly's are sweet, that is true. But an exceptional enchi doesn't happen often, and if you got a good one you will always be glad you did.

Gale

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I don't know if she is exceptional or not, I'll try to get some pics up soon. She was for sure to nicest I saw at the show.

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Originally Posted by h00blah

Get both! Fireflies are tough to do right :gj:. Enchis are too, but you'll find a nice enchi before you find the nicest firefly :gj:. I think enchis have more going on than a first glance allows. They look cooler as they age which is more than you can say about almost every other morph :gj:. They combo well with almost everything, including recessives as well as morphs that normally don't combo well. There's a super form that can boost color and reduce the pattern which most people love :P.

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Well your making me feel better. I went to buy a Firefly and left with something that really wasn't in my breeding plans. After talking with the breeders and telling them the males I have to work with, she was big on Enchi or Woma. I'm still not sold on a Woma.

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Originally Posted by MS2

Well your making me feel better. I went to buy a Firefly and left with something that really wasn't in my breeding plans. After talking with the breeders and telling them the males I have to work with, she was big on Enchi or Woma. I'm still not sold on a Woma.

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Fireflies are good too! One of the few combos that get better as they age! The first time I ever saw or heard of a firefly, it was a subadult on display at an expo. Blew my mind :O! I have several enchi females but I still want a firefly :D!

Im a huge fan of enchi. My personal feeling is how can you go wrong with a morph that gets better with age and enhances nearly everything it is combined with. I was hooked when I saw my first enchi clown but I have yet to see an enchi combo I don't like. :gj: on the great pickup even if it wasn't originally in your breeding plans.

Here's a few pics.

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...psf04cb261.jpg

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...psaa447516.jpg

That's a beautiful animal. A woma butter male would be a nice pairing, or an enchi lesser male for possible super enchi lesser offspring.

Enchis are an absolute must have.

I never thought much about the enchi's until I saw an Enchi-Lesser, then I had to have one. Sometimes it's hard to see the potential in any mutation until you've seen how it combines with other morphs.

Lovely! I too was at the tampa repticon yesterday. Who did you buy her from?


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I never thought much about the enchi's until I saw an Enchi-Lesser, then I had to have one. Sometimes it's hard to see the potential in any mutation until you've seen how it combines with other morphs.

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That's what sold me. They started showing me different morphs it could make and I started thinking really hard about it.

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Lovely! I too was at the tampa repticon yesterday. Who did you buy her from?


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I purchased her from Elizabeth at Family Reptiles. They had some really nice stuff at their table. Very nice people to do business with and I'll probably end up buying a Firefly female from them(when they hatch).

They do seem very nice, but I've personally seen how they treat their feeders... They freeze live rodents. They pile live rats in storage tubs and put them in the freezer. I was at their store in Lakeland to buy heat tape and when I asked if they had frozen rats I was told they were not ready. He opened the freezer door and pulled out a 6qt tub, opened the lid, and showed me half frozen small rats that were trying their best to move and get away but couldn't because they were being slowly frozen to death.

You might not care about these things, but I do. They will never get my business because of this and I try my best to warn others.


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Originally Posted by missriss2012

They do seem very nice, but I've personally seen how they treat their feeders... They freeze live rodents. They pile live rats in storage tubs and put them in the freezer. I was at their store in Lakeland to buy heat tape and when I asked if they had frozen rats I was told they were not ready. He opened the freezer door and pulled out a 6qt tub, opened the lid, and showed me half frozen small rats that were trying their best to move and get away but couldn't because they were being slowly frozen to death.

You might not care about these things, but I do. They will never get my business because of this and I try my best to warn others.


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I was not aware of that. I feed live rats and raise them myself. Never liked dealing with frozen rodents...but if you feed frozen, and if you get them from a retail outfit, how do they freeze their rats? I have heard that freezing is the most humane way to do it. I don't think other companies are rocking them to sleep, then tucking them in for a long hard freeze.

Most companies put down their feeders in a CO2 chamber (only takes a few minutes) before freezing.

Freezing is only a "humane" way to put down rodents that are in the pinky or fuzzy stage. At those sizes they require such a low amount of oxygen that a CO2 chamber doesn't really work.


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Originally Posted by missriss2012

Most companies put down their feeders in a CO2 chamber (only takes a few minutes) before freezing.

Freezing is only a "humane" way to put down rodents that are in the pinky or fuzzy stage. At those sizes they have require such a low amount of oxygen that a CO2 chamber really works.


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Thanks for the info. I know they are just rats but I kinda feel bad when I thump a rat and the snake doesn't eat. It ends up being wasted. I know they are going to die anyway, I would rather they be eaten.

Enchis are cool, I just haven't added any to my breeding stock yet. Their combos are awesome, I just always have something else on my wish list.

Very nice female!

Gale