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  • 06-03-2013, 07:19 PM
    jasonmcgilvrey83
    food to big for bp. please help.
    So i had to take off for a couple days and left the feeding to my wife. She got a mouse to big and now my bp is having problems passing mouse out through vent. What can i do to help pass utter or should i take ti a herp vet?
  • 06-03-2013, 07:44 PM
    Daybreaker
    Do you mean that the snake has a "sausage butt" and is really bloated near its back end/by the vent? If so your snake just might pass a big BM here shortly. If the mouse is already digested (ie no visible lump in the belly area) then I bet it's fine. Can you post some pics?
  • 06-03-2013, 07:46 PM
    nachash
    Re: food to big for bp. please help.
    Well, number one, most people will tell you that you have to ask about going to a vet, then conventional wisdom says you should.
    That being said, beware of vets who know nothing about herpetology. They will waste your money, time, and most likely give you incorrect information that could be harmful.
    So, if you do go to a vet, make sure they are knowledgeable about reptiles. Any vet isn't the same as the right vet, and I don't care how much flack I get for this, an ignorant vet is worse than not going to the vet.
    For a constipated snake, a warm bath can be beneficial. It stimulates the tract and helps getting things going. Don't be too shocked that a bigger meal takes longer to digest. How long has it been since the snake should have pooped (give a guess)? Also, low temperatures make for slower and less efficient digestion.
    Also, I was in another thread that talked about this topic. It is important to not give oversize prey. Meals need to be around the width of the snake.
  • 06-03-2013, 08:20 PM
    PitOnTheProwl
    Re: food to big for bp. please help.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jasonmcgilvrey83 View Post
    She got a mouse to big and now my bp is having problems passing mouse out through vent. What can i do to help pass utter or should i take ti a herp vet?

    Too big is a going "IN" issue, not a coming out:gj:
    First off, when was the last poo passed?
    You are probably going to get a stinky shortly.
  • 06-03-2013, 08:32 PM
    jasonmcgilvrey83
    One i figure out how to post pixs i will. Lol. Its been two weeks since last feeding and he just shed and acting hungry. Not sure if i should feed her till she passes it or not. If she doesn't pass utter by the end of the week ill take her in to a herp vet. I have soaked her for 20 minutes today and she passed a lot of liquid but not the mouse yet. She should be eating hopper and the wife fed her about adult mouse.
  • 06-03-2013, 08:35 PM
    jasonmcgilvrey83
    The only thing im concerned about is it ripping the vent from being to big.
  • 06-03-2013, 08:43 PM
    TJ_Burton
    Re: food to big for bp. please help.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jasonmcgilvrey83 View Post
    The only thing im concerned about is it ripping the vent from being to big.

    not going to happen, if the meal was too large your snake would have regurgitated it.

    This snake pooped out her meal just fine, and she ate a medium rat at 300g... (for the record she was not supposed to get a medium rat)

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ps3846b678.jpg
  • 06-03-2013, 08:52 PM
    Flikky
    Re: food to big for bp. please help.
    Because the meal was large it'll take time for it to be digested. But the end result won't be any larger than another.. there's no danger.
  • 06-03-2013, 09:04 PM
    Raven01
    Re: food to big for bp. please help.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl View Post
    Too big is a going "IN" issue, not a coming out:gj:
    First off, when was the last poo passed?
    You are probably going to get a stinky shortly.


    ^^^ Right there.
    The more common problem seems to be feeding undersized prey. This doesn't stretch the jaw correctly for the snake.
    If it went in then it should come out.

    May I ask what temp.'s you have the tank/tub set at? And, if you have a hide on both the warm and cool side (When my BP's get 15-17% body weight prey they hang out in the warm hide much more, with 10-12% body weight prey they are mostly on the cool side).
    Oh, I've also noticed that larger meals seem to result in longer digestion periods and eventually a massive deuce.
  • 06-03-2013, 09:05 PM
    jasonmcgilvrey83
  • 06-03-2013, 09:12 PM
    jasonmcgilvrey83
    Since the photo cut out what needed to be seen ill post the direct link.

    http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/...ps9605911c.jpg

    http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8e9dea94.jpg
  • 06-03-2013, 09:14 PM
    Capray
    Looks like normal sausage butt, I think she'll poop after she sheds. Nothing to worry about.
  • 06-03-2013, 09:42 PM
    jasonmcgilvrey83
    warm side is set to 85 with basking temp of 89 to 90 with temp controller and dimmer. cool side set at 76 to 78. two hides in warm and cool. when she sheds i have a hide with moist moss in it for her to hydrate sence she wont dip in her water. lol.
  • 06-03-2013, 11:03 PM
    Raven01
    Re: food to big for bp. please help.
    I'd say you have little to worry about then.
    Every once in awhile a snake might do something kind of dumb but, to be perfectly honest I've found my snakes do fewer dumb things in a day than I do on average. I'll qualify that with the exception of my female YB, she would eat like it was thanksgiving every single feeding day if I let her. That girl is very food focused.

    She is going to leave you a rather large present soon.
  • 06-04-2013, 12:47 AM
    jasonmcgilvrey83
    She's a water pooper lol. Got a pix of her after shed now. She's two toned. Front half is dark and back half is pale. Check it out.

    http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/...psda271709.jpg

    http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/...ps831aa047.jpg

    http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/...psfa46bb00.jpg
  • 06-04-2013, 12:52 AM
    BLM94
    If anything she looks a bit thin, what's her feeding regimen?
  • 06-04-2013, 06:12 AM
    PitOnTheProwl
    What does she weigh??
    Hopper mice are too small, that is what fresh hatchlings get.
  • 06-04-2013, 07:21 AM
    Evildrdee
    I was thinking awfully thin looking.
  • 06-04-2013, 10:49 AM
    mackynz
    Re: food to big for bp. please help.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BLM94 View Post
    If anything she looks a bit thin, what's her feeding regimen?

    This. She looks awful skinny.
  • 06-04-2013, 10:54 AM
    jasonmcgilvrey83
    She was a rescue. When i got her she was under weight and under fed. Im slowly trying to get her up to adult mice but feeding her hopper till she plump up a bit. Just got her a month ago. The person guy i got her from was feeding her two fuzzies a week. I didn't want to go from fuzzies to adult mice right away so im building her up before i do. Im going to start her on them next week. I have been feeding her every 5 days since i got her. She eats like a champ. And likes her head pet like a dog. Lol.
  • 06-04-2013, 11:03 AM
    Kaorte
    I agree she does look very thin to me. That is probably why her sausage butt is so noticeable.

    I think you could start her right away on smaller adult mice once a week. She'll be fine.
  • 06-18-2013, 12:46 AM
    jasonmcgilvrey83
    He spits out adults so I have been giving him the biggest hoppers I can find. He finally got rid of all the waste a couple days ago. I have never seen a poop that big come out of him. Lol. He still a work in progress and still under weight but slowly growing. Also he was having problems with live so I was science to switch him to frozen/thawed. He got Moors when constricting. Small nip nothing bad and already healed.
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