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  • 06-02-2013, 06:07 PM
    valhalha30
    Normal female Het for Spider?
    I had her for a few months and recently noticed that she has a wobble. With eating/drinking/climbing, everything she does she wobbles while doing it. Especially when excited or after eating.
    Could she carry Spider genes?
  • 06-02-2013, 06:11 PM
    Meltdown Morphs
    Since a spider is a visual (co dom) morph a ball python either is a spider or it isn't, there is no 'het spider'.
    It sounds like she may have some neurological issues. Spiders have neuro issues that are tied into the gene, but its very possible for ball pythons to have those issue without any genes. It depends on what happened during incubation, or if the snake suffered some kind of trauma in its life.
  • 06-02-2013, 06:11 PM
    dr del
    Re: Normal female Het for Spider?
    No.

    Spider is a dominant gene - if she had spider in her she would look like a spider.

    There are a few things that can cause a wobble though - from weak muscles in hatchlings through overheating causing neurological symptoms and parasite infections.
  • 06-02-2013, 06:14 PM
    Capray
    What does she look like? Sometimes low quality spiders look like reduced normals. But yeah, there's no het. spider. She may just have issues.
  • 06-02-2013, 06:17 PM
    MarkS
    Re: Normal female Het for Spider?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kyote19 View Post
    Since a spider is a visual (co dom) morph a ball python either is a spider or it isn't, there is no 'het spider'.

    Actually all visible spiders are het spider. Nobody has ever proven one to be homozygous yet.
  • 06-02-2013, 06:33 PM
    JaGv
    Re: Normal female Het for Spider?
    any pictures of this normal het spider?
  • 06-02-2013, 06:43 PM
    valhalha30
    Re: Normal female Het for Spider?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Capray View Post
    What does she look like? Sometimes low quality spiders look like reduced normals. But yeah, there's no het. spider. She may just have issues.

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    No webbing, and she has weak muscles. So that's all, that would cause a wobble?
  • 06-02-2013, 06:44 PM
    rabernet
    Re: Normal female Het for Spider?
    She could have overheated, been exposed to chemicals, if this isn't how she's always been.
  • 06-02-2013, 06:49 PM
    valhalha30
    http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...122_212720.jpg

    Idk got her from petsmart, she's pretty, and sweet. But somewhat weaker than my pastel.
  • 06-02-2013, 07:35 PM
    MarkS
    I once brought home a rescue carpet python that had been kept on cedar bedding, she wobbled just like a spider but her's was due to poisoning from the essential oils in the cedar.
  • 06-03-2013, 12:13 AM
    angllady2
    I understand what you are asking. Since she seems to have the spider wobble, you are asking if it is possible one of her parents was a spider and she inherited the wobble from the spider parent. I suppose that is theoretically possible, but I've never heard of such a thing. Any baby born from a spider parent that isn't visually a spider does not wobble that I have ever heard of.

    More likely, it was a birth defect or cause by exposure to chemicals. Since she was a pet shop snake, either is a distinct possibility. It doesn't mean she cannot live a normal life. If she can eat and poo and shed normally, just think of her as having a bit more personality than most normal ball pythons.

    Gale
  • 06-03-2013, 08:59 AM
    valhalha30
    Yes, that is exactly what I meant.

    I agree with everything you and a few others said.
    She's special, lol. And I love her tons.
  • 06-03-2013, 09:37 AM
    notmyfault
    All my BPs are het spider, lol. But seriously its a dominant trait that is passed on without having hets.
  • 06-22-2013, 01:14 PM
    Parysa
    I have a normal male that I got from a pet shop who "wobbles" (and yet my spider doesn't at all, lol). He was overheated and has some neuro issues. He's really jerky when he moves and kinda spastic. I have to really be careful with him because if there's too much activity around him or if he gets handled too much or anything else like that he gets stressed. But he's a permanent resident.
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