Can someone define the different "bee" morphs?

I guess I'm enough of a latecomer to this that most people just use the "bee" terms as common knowledge, but I'm still fuzzy on most of them, and I can't seem to find them all defined in one place. I know they all involve the spider morph and that Bumblebee = pastel spider, but that's about it. What about killerbee, honeybee, queen bee, and others? I'll thank you in advance for your patience lol

Bumblebee = pastel spider
Killer bee= super pastel spider
Honeybee= hypo spider
Stinger bee = enchi spider
Lesser/butter bee= lesser or butter spider
Queen bee= pastel lesser/butter spider
Fire bee = fire pastel spider
Enchi bee = pastel enchi spider
Humble bee = pastel hypo spider

That's all I could think of off the top of my head!


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Typically any morph with the tag "bee" will have a spider gene attached to it.

Bumblebee = Pastel + Spider
Killerbee = (Pastel + Pastel)= (super pastel) + Spider
Queenbee = Pastel + Lesser + Spider
Honeybee = Ghost + Spider
Humblebee = Ghost + Pastel + Spider
Lesserbee = Lesser + Spider

The term "Bee" comes from the morph bumblebee, which was first created by NERD, when they mixed a pastel and a spider creating a snake that had dark spidery pattern and was all yellow with high white sides, that resembled a bumblebee. Bees are a very iconic morph and it is one of the first morphs ever created. It is a beautiful display of the best of the pastel gene and the best of the spider gene. It gets the pattern from the spider and the color from the pastel.

This page can be very helpful for any other morph genetics
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/

Well I know that the morph I want, is the fire bee (pastel/fire/spider). But I'm not sure how to go about getting one yet.

Find one from a quality breeder (much less fun) ;)

Or you can try to make your own by having those 3 genes in your collection (much more fun) :)

No I want to seek out a breeder and get them all in one package. Nearly all of my favorite morphs can be produced by crossing a fire bee with a pastel. ;)

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Originally Posted by stickboy26

No I want to seek out a breeder and get them all in one package. Nearly all of my favorite morphs can be produced by crossing a fire bee with a pastel. ;)

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Kick it up a notch and have a pastel lesser for your female. ;)

A couple more I didn't see are the Black Bee (Black Pastel + Spider) and the CinnaBee (Cinnamon + Spider). Pretty self-explanatory I know.....:rolleyes:

Also, a Zebra Bee (Axanthic + Pastel + Spider) or (Axanthic Bumblebee) :gj:

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Originally Posted by Annarose15

Kick it up a notch and have a pastel lesser for your female. ;)

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I may get to lesser eventually, but I really want the fire and spider genes to go with the pastel. I can't get firefly, superfly, and bumblebee without them. ;) And it may not sound like much, but I've always wanted a super pastel ever since I became familiar with the morph. There would be a 25% of getting one of those also, on top of all the other possibilities. :)

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Originally Posted by stickboy26

I may get to lesser eventually, but I really want the fire and spider genes to go with the pastel. I can't get firefly, superfly, and bumblebee without them. ;) And it may not sound like much, but I've always wanted a super pastel ever since I became familiar with the morph. There would be a 25% of getting one of those also, on top of all the other possibilities. :)

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I guess I phrased it poorly - get a pastel lesser instead of a pastel as your female, to breed to the fire bee! ;)

Missed my favorite..... Calibee= calico pastel spider

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Welll the $1500 price tag on the fire bee may slow me down. I may have to start with a bumblebee, a firefly, or a fire spider and work my way up.


But I'm curious: If there is a super pastel fire (superfly) is there also a super pastel fire bee? Because that would be absolutely sick.....

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Originally Posted by stickboy26

Welll the $1500 price tag on the fire bee may slow me down. I may have to start with a bumblebee, a firefly, or a fire spider and work my way up.


But I'm curious: If there is a super pastel fire (superfly) is there also a super pastel fire bee? Because that would be absolutely sick.....

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Yep, they have been produced before. They are SMOKIN... http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...ller-bee-fire/

I like your thinking too! Fire bee is DEFINITELY a good idea! What you COULD do, is buy some cool single gene females that you'd like to add to a fire bee such as enchi, lesser, calico, pastel (or a pastel combo), then raise them up and save up for a fire bee male :gj:! That way, you start off with females who are ready to breed, and plug that fire bee into all of them to make your favorites!

Fire bee is a GREAT powerhouse btw. Never really thought about it, but I definitely agree.... Adding pastel fire and spider to anything really makes it better :bow:!!

Wow I'm speechless over that killer fire bee. It's like a zombie snake, with those black eyes and faded spider pattern on a nearly white background, yet so bright at the same time.

Well I know the first thing I need to do is get a better pastel line to improve on my mid-grade pastel female. I was thinking that the fire bee combines my 3 favorite morphs all into one, and breeding to the pastel makes possible most of my favorite combinations. But if it's too expensive, a 2-gene combo would be a good start. A really nice bumblebee would at least give me the chance for a super pastel which I really want to hatch, and also produce some nice pastels and spiders.

I'm finding that there are too many possibilities to choose them all, so I'm thinking I'll just have to choose what I like as much as I can. :) I guess I'm a poor man trying to play a rich man's game, so I'll have to choose wisely to make the best use of my money getting started.

I have 9 eggs in the oven, due around the first of july, from my firebee x pastel. Yes I'm after a killer firebee!
http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file.../9/firebee.jpg

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Originally Posted by grcforce327

I have 9 eggs in the oven, due around the first of july, from my firebee x pastel. Yes I'm after a killer firebee!
http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file.../9/firebee.jpg

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Definitely want to see pictures of these guys when they hatch!! :D