Tongue Color?

Does tongue color (Black/grey vs Pink) have any bearing on genetics?

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Originally Posted by iCandiBallPythons

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Just thinking aloud here, but this might be too stark of an answer. I don't believe I've seen a bumblebee without a pink tongue, or a normal with a pink tongue, so who's to say it isn't genetically linked?

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Originally Posted by Annarose15

Just thinking aloud here, but this might be too stark of an answer. I don't believe I've seen a bumblebee without a pink tongue, or a normal with a pink tongue, so who's to say it isn't genetically linked?

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Thank you! I didn't just post this without looking for other threads. There seems to be a lot of assumption around this topic without any real information, probably because it's not a trait that is obvious so people don't look for it. There are all sorts of little tells that may help you identify if the animal you're dealing with might have some interesting gene and it seems to me that tongue color could be one of them. It might not be important for a simple co-dom mutation, but if you look at something like a YB, then see the Super form... yeah, I think we could use all the info on possible markers that we can get!

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Of course tongue color has to do with genetics, its genetics that determines what color it is. As for if its related to any specific morphs, i.e. morph A. only has pink tongues, its certainly possible. It'd be cool to pick a morph and get pictures of everyones animals tongue color posted for comparison.

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Originally Posted by eatgoodfood

Of course tongue color has to do with genetics, its genetics that determines what color it is. As for if its related to any specific morphs, i.e. morph A. only has pink tongues, its certainly possible.. its be cool to pick a morph or to and get pictures of everyones animals tongue color posted for comparison.

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That'd be a fun afternoon... I can just picture it. Staring a BP right in the face and saying, "Now open your mouth and say 'Ahhh!'.".

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Originally Posted by ChaosAffect

That'd be a fun afternoon... I can just picture it. Staring a BP right in the face and saying, "Now open your mouth and say 'Ahhh!'.".

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LOL yeah, I can imagine it being pretty difficult to get a good picture. Or one at all.

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LOL yeah, I can imagine it being pretty difficult to get a good picture. Or one at all.

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video it and go through it frame by frame.

That would be one way, or put the camera on burst.

Pretty much all of the tongue shots I've gotten from albino to pastel to bumblbee to yellowbelly to every other morph I can think of has a red tongue with white tips.

bumblebee
http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/a...z/100_0131.jpg

clown
http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/a...z/IMG_9052.jpg

butter
http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/a...z/IMG_9004.jpg

Lesser
http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/a...z/IMG_9083.jpg

yellowbelly
http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/a...z/IMG_8960.jpg

The reason I posted this is because I noticed that one of mine has a charcoal gray tongue. No pink that I could see.

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I have a granite that has a black and pink tounge. It has not shown in any of her offspring

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Originally Posted by iCandiBallPythons

I have a granite that has a black and pink tounge. It has not shown in any of her offspring

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You're absolutely right. One case definitely eliminates any possibility of it being a marker in another type of morph. Case closed. :D

I have others but hers is most prominent.

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Can you guys take pictures of those dark/multi-colored tongues? I'd really like to see that.

I've never heard of them being used as any kind of a het marker, but I don't see why they couldn't be. The problem is, well, shades: All of my ball pythons have fundamentally pink tongues, but some of them have shades of gray or black when you view them against a light-colored background. But it's very much background- and lighting-dependent.

My dark male het pied and my axanthic female have the darkest tongues. Even darker than my black pastels, I think.

All of my pieds, lucys, and albinos have very light pink tongues.