Looking for blood ball (super ball) and or carpet ball (carball)

I'm looking into buying a super ball (blood python x ball python) and or a carball (carpet python x ball python) or breeding my own but I've been told it is difficult to do. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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I've looked around for a while. The few people who have them are trying to raise and breed them into color morphs. I have yet to see one for sale to the public. I really want one as a pet.

only thing i have seen recently

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

you will have to contact for more information, but is/was up for sale.

If I were to ever breed a breitensteini/regius I would get them microchipped and make any person wanting to purchase one sign a contract promising:

not to breed them and

if they were ever unable to care for the animal or wanted to sell it, that it would be returned to me.

That being said I'd assume other breeders have similar, maybe not so strict guidelines about it.

Idk if I'd go that far I mean and they say most of them are sterile anyways.

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Originally Posted by jcoylesr76

only thing i have seen recently

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

you will have to contact for more information, but is/was up for sale.

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don't think i'll ever own a hybrid.. but that is one cool lookin snake.

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Originally Posted by creepin

don't think i'll ever own a hybrid.. but that is one cool lookin snake.

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I wont own any either, but it is a nice looker thats for sure.

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Originally Posted by bradthebanker

Idk if I'd go that far I mean and they say most of them are sterile anyways.

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I believe superballs can breed. I may be mistaken but I'm sure I heard somewhere that they can.

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Originally Posted by catzeye21138

If I were to ever breed a breitensteini/regius I would get them microchipped and make any person wanting to purchase one sign a contract promising:

not to breed them

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Can the Hybrid of a ball and blood even produce viable (reproductive) offspring? In all of my Nat Resources course work I did, all the common hybrids we talked about can not produce viable offspring. Now, not saying it can't happen, I am just not aware of it happening.

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Originally Posted by Erndogg

Can the Hybrid of a ball and blood even produce viable (reproductive) offspring? In all of my Nat Resources course work I did, all the common hybrids we talked about can not produce viable offspring. Now, not saying it can't happen, I am just not aware of it happening.

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I did some research a while back and iirc super balls are very capable of breeding. This becomes a problem when you get 75% animals and eventually indistinguishable animals. You could have a blood with ball genes in it and have no idea. Muddying of the genetic lines.

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Originally Posted by catzeye21138

If I were to ever breed a breitensteini/regius I would get them microchipped and make any person wanting to purchase one sign a contract promising:

not to breed them and

if they were ever unable to care for the animal or wanted to sell it, that it would be returned to me.

That being said I'd assume other breeders have similar, maybe not so strict guidelines about it.

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I would have to agree. I'm not sure where I stand on the morality of it in general but I don't think these gene pools need to be mixed together. It could snowball.

Honestly plays the roll in that part. Me as a breeder I would never sell something that isn't 100% what I said it is. If i sell a super ball that person will know that and if they sell it as a ball python well its their fault for doing that in my opinion

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Originally Posted by bradthebanker

Honestly plays the roll in that part. Me as a breeder I would never sell something that isn't 100% what I said it is. If i sell a super ball that person will know that and if they sell it as a ball python well its their fault for doing that in my opinion

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I don't know that it's so much the issue of selling it as the wrong animal as it is mixing up the gene pool. If they weren't tracked you could end up with ball that has a little blood in him and not know it (and viceversa). I think the idea is to keep pure balls and pure bloods. So you know what you have and what you're breeding.

There is no shortage of pureblood specimens in the trade or in the wild. Ball pythons and blood pythons should be just fine even if a few hybrids make it into their gene pool. Do the majority of breeders have the same concern for Ball pythons with spiders & womas and their neurological issues, deserts with their female sterility, or inbreeding in general to develop/prove out morphs? I'm thinking both species will be ok.

With something as noticeable as a super blood, the odds of genetic corruption are low. Although, I think breeding them back to one species is going too far, what people usually breed are 50/50 hybrids. I, personally, want to establish "pure" 50/50 superballs as a domestic subspecies, after a couple generations of selective breeding and stablizing genetics.
What I believe is a problem with hybrids and integrades are closely related species like carpets, boa constrictors, and short taileds. However, even a Mongrel ball (25% blood 75% ball) is distinguishable among other pythons. F2 Superballs look wicked cool.

Its a little far off but my husband and I will be trying to breed them next season. If youre still looking then ill post them up here if it works out. :)

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