How does my Spotnose look?

So we bought this Spotnose last week and have fallen in love with her. We were curious though if we choose to breed her in the future (she is obviously still to little now) is her pattern nice enough to produce good babies?
http://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/...ps371a44a8.jpg

~CRR

I personally don't like the color. Not bright enough. I wouldn't breed her

I would be interested in getting some more opinions, whether they're good or bad!

~CRR

What would you pair her with? Shes an average looking spotnose imo. She doesn't have a really prominent headstamp and isnt super bright.

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Originally Posted by Mike41793

What would you pair her with? Shes an average looking spotnose imo. She doesn't have a really prominent headstamp and isnt super bright.

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Haven't thought too much into what she would be paired with, but average is better then a poor example.:D

Our picture doesn't do her justice, here is the link to her on N.E.R.D.

http://newenglandreptile.com/cart/a-...tnose-101.html

We are not advertising for N.E.R.D. Just a better photo, just click on the picture!

I would say shes like a 6/10. I havent seen a ton of hot spotnoses though.

I'd give her a chance to get some size on her, and then see what morph seems like a good fit. :)

My pairing would be Leopard spotnose

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Originally Posted by Mike41793

I would say shes like a 6/10. I havent seen a ton of hot spotnoses though.

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Originally Posted by Annarose15

I'd give her a chance to get some size on her, and then see what morph seems like a good fit.

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So you think she is breeder worthy in the future?

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Originally Posted by Flikky

I personally don't like the color. Not bright enough. I wouldn't breed her

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I guess I just got more curious about her breeding potential after reading this. I felt like she was breeder worthy and this got me wondering if she was a poor example. Thanks everyone! Keep them coming!

~CRR

I personally wouldn't breed her :oops: If I just glanced at her pic real quick I wouldn't have even seen Spotnose in her. Here's my Spotnose girl who (as always, only personal opinion) is quite lovely and a good example:

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...pscbec6b6e.jpg

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...psd1a83e46.jpg

I don't understand why people say they wouldn't breed her. How many breeders use normals for clutches? I'd rather use an "average" example of a morph than a normal any day. If you want to breed your snake go for it. When she's ready that is.

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Originally Posted by adamsky27

I don't understand why people say they wouldn't breed her. How many breeders use normals for clutches? I'd rather use an "average" example of a morph than a normal any day. If you want to breed your snake go for it. When she's ready that is.

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This unfortunately leads to a morph-specific market flooded with less than stellar specimens, which in turn diminishes the value of the morph

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Originally Posted by adamsky27

I don't understand why people say they wouldn't breed her. How many breeders use normals for clutches? I'd rather use an "average" example of a morph than a normal any day. If you want to breed your snake go for it. When she's ready that is.

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This seems to be with the assumption that just any normal female gets used. Even normals should be hand picked for whatever qualities will enhance the breeding project (pattern, color, etc...).

The OP Spotnose is average at best. It does not pass my general test for potential breeders of:

1. Is the NO DOUBT at first, cursory glance that it is the morph
2. Is it near the realm of the most awesome example I have seen

The OP snake will not IMO lend the most important thing a Spotnose lends a lot of combos, COLOR

IMO for a Spotnose, high color is most important followed closely by pattern, head stamp then well spots on the nose.

Daybreaker's on the other hans, has ALL of these qualities and is IMO a A example of the morph.

Spotnoses are very undervalued, so much so that there really is no excuse not to hold out for a perfect example to add to a breeding project.

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Originally Posted by BLM94

This unfortunately leads to a morph-specific market flooded with less than stellar specimens, which in turn diminishes the value of the morph

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Great point.

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Originally Posted by Royal Hijinx

This seems to be with the assumption that just any normal female gets used. Even normals should be hand picked for whatever qualities will enhance the breeding project (pattern, color, etc...).

The OP Spotnose is average at best. It does not pass my general test for potential breeders of:

1. Is the NO DOUBT at first, cursory glance that it is the morph
2. Is it near the realm of the most awesome example I have seen

The OP snake will not IMO lend the most important thing a Spotnose lends a lot of combos, COLOR

IMO for a Spotnose, high color is most important followed closely by pattern, head stamp then well spots on the nose.

Daybreaker's on the other hans, has ALL of these qualities and is IMO a A example of the morph.

Spotnoses are very undervalued, so much so that there really is no excuse not to hold out for a perfect example to add to a breeding project.

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Very detailed answer, great points as well.