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  • 04-29-2013, 12:25 PM
    Marissa@MKmorphs
    2012 female blood died unexpectedly
    A 2012 female matrix that I purchased from the Tampa Repticon at the end of March was found dead today when I was checking on the animals. She refused her live rat pup on the 24th but didn't think anything of it.

    She was in a shoebox tub with a hide, water bowl, crumpled newspaper, and some sphagnum moss. She was on newspaper substrate. The hot side was 89 and ambient was 78.

    I found her belly up wrapped around her her hide. When I checked on her the day before yesterday she was alert and didn't look "off" at all.

    I put her in a zip lock in the fridge and am going to take her for a necropsy tomorrow.

    Any idea what could have happened?


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  • 04-29-2013, 12:32 PM
    Andybill
    Oh no! I saw the title and my heart dropped for you! That sucks! I am sorry for your loss and sorry that I cant shed any light on the sudden death of your blood...
  • 04-29-2013, 12:35 PM
    Marissa@MKmorphs
    2012 female blood died unexpectedly
    Thanks, I'm taking her for a necropsy tomorrow.


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  • 04-29-2013, 12:41 PM
    SnowShredder
    I'm sorry to hear that. I lost a ball not very long ago and it was very unexpected. I regret not getting a necropsy so I'm glad to hear you're doing that. Please keep this thread updated with the results
  • 04-29-2013, 12:52 PM
    KMG
    That really sucks. Loosing an animal when everything seems good is hard.

    Keep us posted and if you don't mind let us know how much the necropsy cost. Its been asked several times but guesses are always thrown out. It would be nice to know.
  • 04-29-2013, 02:47 PM
    Marissa@MKmorphs
    I just called and set up the necropsy for tomorrow morning. I am going to drop her off before I head to take my finals.

    They quoted me at $142, but I don't know if that would include any testing that might have to do...

    - - - Updated - - -

    I just called and set up the necropsy for tomorrow morning. I am going to drop her off before I head to take my finals.

    They quoted me at $142, but I don't know if that would include any testing that might have to do...
  • 04-29-2013, 02:52 PM
    Daybreaker
    I'm sorry for your loss :( Please let us know what they find: I've never needed to have a necropsy done so I can't say if that's the norm price or not.
  • 04-29-2013, 03:19 PM
    DooLittle
    Re: 2012 female blood died unexpectedly
    That's too bad. :( Sorry for your loss. I have no ideas to offer up, only condolences.
  • 04-29-2013, 03:39 PM
    RoseRed
    Sorry for your loss, I hope you can find out what happened. :(
  • 04-29-2013, 06:45 PM
    DNACurtusK
    Very sorry for your loss!! It definately sounds like it was something that was at no fault of your own. I too am curious to hear the results of the necropsy.
  • 04-29-2013, 06:49 PM
    Marissa@MKmorphs
    Re: 2012 female blood died unexpectedly
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DNACurtusK View Post
    Very sorry for your loss!! It definately sounds like it was something that was at no fault of your own. I too am curious to hear the results of the necropsy.

    Thank you. The male that I purchased from the same breeder at the same time seems perfectly okay. I drop her off at 7am for her necropsy. I have exams to take so I most likely won't be present for the necropsy.
  • 04-29-2013, 08:53 PM
    DNACurtusK
    I'll be checking back for updates tomorrow. Glad to hear your other is doing fine!
  • 04-29-2013, 09:35 PM
    Mrl249
    2012 female blood died unexpectedly
    Sorry to hear about what happened to your blood :( please keep us updated
  • 04-30-2013, 03:29 AM
    pedipalps
    Sorry for your loss! Keep us update about necropsy.
  • 04-30-2013, 07:22 AM
    Marissa@MKmorphs
    2012 female blood died unexpectedly
    I just dropped her off that the vet, and made sure they wrote down that I wanted her tested for IBD, parasites, and anything that could be contagious and spread to the rest of my collection.

    They will be calling me later with the results.


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  • 04-30-2013, 10:31 AM
    Marissa@MKmorphs
    They just called me and are about to begin the necropsy. They wanted to call and make sure I understood that testing for IBD would probably run another 80-150 in addition to the necropsy costs. The doctor is trying to find a lab that does that testing so I should find out more in a few hours.
  • 04-30-2013, 05:27 PM
    DNACurtusK
    Any update?
  • 04-30-2013, 05:49 PM
    Marissa@MKmorphs
    2012 female blood died unexpectedly
    Other than her having almost zero body fat he said everything looked healthy.

    She was in my possession for 4 weeks
    Week 1: refused
    Week 2: took live rat pup
    Week 3: live rat pup again
    Week 4: refused

    That eating schedule and refusals didn't seem like anything to be alarmed about. Especially since she still had a nice chubby blood body (while she was still alive). I contacted the breeder and am inquiring about her eating and such before she came home to me.

    She hatched out between May and July of last year. She was under 200 grams when I got her, and weighed 120 grams after she passed. I didn't weigh her in between because I do monthly weigh ins and she seemed to be growing fine.

    I declined the IBD test. No other animals in qt are showing any symptoms or weight loss.




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  • 05-01-2013, 12:40 PM
    DNACurtusK
    That's just crazy! I'm sorry for your loss. Guess it's a mystery.
  • 05-01-2013, 05:08 PM
    SnowShredder
    Nearly a year old And only 120g?? That seems extremely extremely underweight. Bloods are very thick and heavy bodied, much heavier than balls and 120g at a year old for a ball is extremely small. I had a blood and at a year old was several times that weight without being overweight.
    And the fact that she had no body fat =/ that sounds like a very malnourished blood
  • 05-02-2013, 08:03 AM
    Marissa@MKmorphs
    2012 female blood died unexpectedly
    She did not appear malnourished in any way from the time I purchased her (3/24) up until 2 days before she was found dead.

    Here is a pic from the day she came home
    http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/02/guzutugu.jpg


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  • 05-02-2013, 08:07 AM
    pythontricker
    I'm so sorry for your loss. This just occurred to me with my Hogg island boa. I hope the necropsy reveals something...
  • 05-02-2013, 02:38 PM
    SnowShredder
    She does look on the thin side, but you're right, she doesn't look that bad. It's just very strange to me that she was nearly a year old, and newborn hatchling bloods weigh about 75-100g
    I'm not saying this had anything to do with her death, but I was just shocked at her weight/age
  • 05-09-2013, 10:48 AM
    aahmn
    Re: 2012 female blood died unexpectedly
    Aw, she's really pretty, too. Sorry for your loss. I guess I would think that snakes can have random congenital defects too, like liver shunts, etc. With her small size, that's what popped into my head as a possibility.
  • 05-11-2013, 09:22 PM
    LunaLupus
    Based on the info you have given I would think it was a combination of being underweight and overheated. She also could just have 'failure to thrive'. It happens in all species. I am sorry for your loss. :(
  • 05-12-2013, 11:24 AM
    pedipalps
    She looks good in that picture. Again sorry for your loss.
  • 05-13-2013, 08:21 AM
    Marissa@MKmorphs
    2012 female blood died unexpectedly
    Thanks everyone. I saw the breeder yesterday and they said they would replace the animal, they just don't have any more female matrix available right now but should be having more hatch out soon.

    My boyfriend and I were thinking of seeing if they could work out a deal on a female ivory or a carpet (they have very nice jungle stock). I will keep you posted on what ends up happening.


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