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Ball python recessive project?
I want a new project an want to go recessive. Obviously pied an albino are the most popular, but I want answers from people experienced in recessive traits with their opinions on which produce the best color an pattern (which is what I'm interested in). I would love a pied, but I don't want a het an those are still fairly pricey for a female, which I would like it to be. I'm kinda leaning towards a clown, or maybe an axanthic but I hear they brown out? Opinions? Thanks!
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Desert Ghost!
Here is mine breeding with an Enchi to show color comparison.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ps944e6c36.jpg
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Ball python recessive project?
Sunset! Just kidding, although if you have the money, that would be sweet. Clowns are absurdly awesome, but so are desert ghosts. Also, I am crazy about black axanthic, but they are still really pricey I believe. What I would do is pick the morph that interests you the most, and go for it!
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Pastel clowns or killer clowns!
Those guys are colorful and clownie :banana:
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Re: Ball python recessive project?
clown and axanthic both look very nice combined with lesser-you could go in that general direction for some interesting mixes. Personally I adore ghosts and most of their variants, but they are apparently out of fashion at the moment...
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clowns are hot right now, and a lot more combos to come. check out the pastel enchi clowns. also albinos and pieds are favorites at the local shows. I'm working on albino pieds which will drop a lot of jaws at the shows. good luck with which way you go. don
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Clown!
Or, if you have the $$$ then go lavender albino. :snake:
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[QUOTE=RobNJ;2064159]Anything hypo is amazing, and they look fantastic well into adulthood...
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I agree with Rob. I love the hypo gene.
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Originally Posted by RobNJ
Is the 2nd one down a green ghost? It looks like the female from my pair, although they are young and keep changing with each shed.
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I'd go with piebald. Pick up a couple of 100% het females, raise them up, then get a nice pied male. 50% chance at pied per egg, and the others are 100% het.
Now as to why pied: there will always be a market for them, and being recessive makes them harder to produce. So, high demand and low supply means they will be easy for you to sell, and easier to break even on your investment. Also, they are definitely one of easiest morphs to recognize (along with albino), so someone who isn't familiar with ball pythons can look at a pied and think "Wow, that's amazing", but a clown to them might look like just another snake. So, I'd say they have a larger market as well. The same can be said for albino, but I don't find them as striking. I chose to do both :P
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Clown > Lav Albino > Albino > Pied > Hypo :)
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If you like pieds, get a pied. Also, if price is an issue, female clowns are more than female pieds. I like them both though.
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Originally Posted by snakesRkewl
Clown > Lav Albino > Albino > Pied > Hypo :)
No, no Jerry. I think you meant to type Hypo > Clown > Lav Albino > Albino > Pied. :P
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Originally Posted by lyfoti05
No, no Jerry. I think you meant to type Hypo > Clown > Lav Albino > Albino > Pied. :P
X2 to this. Haha
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Ball python recessive project?
I like hypos, clowns and pieds. Desert ghost are also amazing, yet still too far outta my price range :(
No interest in albinos at all really.
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Originally Posted by snakesRkewl
Clown > Lav Albino > Albino > Pied > Hypo :)
I'm with Jerry on this one.
Clown all the way! I love clowns. Wish I had one to post a picture of. :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by DooLittle
I'm with Jerry on this one.
Clown all the way! I love clowns. Wish I had one to post a picture of. :rolleyes:
You need to hurry and make bumblebee clowns for us to oogle! :gj:
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Snow clown (axanthic albino clown) its a long project but worth it. Don't think anyone has produced one yet.
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Originally Posted by Peoples
Snow clown (axanthic albino clown) its a long project but worth it. Don't think anyone has produced one yet.
Because it's a super long shot at a triple recessive, I'm not so sure any triple recessives have been done :confusd:
I'm working on yellowbelly clown this season and Ivory clown next season, either sex will make a powerful snake genetically.
I might be a touch biased, but there are so many clown projects yet to be done that it has to be one of the best long term recessive projects out there.
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Originally Posted by snakesRkewl
Because it's a super long shot at a triple recessive, I'm not so sure any triple recessives have been done :confusd:...
...there are so many clown projects yet to be done that it has to be one of the best long term recessive projects out there.
Hence why it's worth it...
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Why would anyone want a triple recessive with snow in it? A snow is supposed to be an all white snake... so a snow clown is all white too. Maybe you can see a TINY bit of pattern, but how is that worth the time spent on triple recessives?
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a snow clown would be highly valuable for certain breeders. it enables you to work with axanthic clowns, albino clowns, and snow BPs with high effectivity.
but visually i agree, i wouldnt expect much from a snow clown. if you have snow BPs to compare it to, then you will probarbly able to see it under the right lighting conditions or under UV fluorescence.
its hard to think of a triple recessive project that would really make sense visually, where you can see all 3 genes. Maybe axanthic genetic stripe pied.
Double recessives are hard enough to work with, and there are many awesome-looking double recessive projects out there, that can be enhanced by adding dominants or codominants.
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