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Potential new Calico

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  • 04-09-2013, 10:29 PM
    gsarchie
    Potential new Calico
    I saw a calico in person for the first time the other day and developed a bit of a liking for them. As a result I've been looking around for one and found this guy...

    http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...ps8429b1dc.jpg

    So is this guy a stunner or what!? I'm talking with the seller to see what we can work out. Let me know what you think. Also, take note of the near ringer at the tail. Gorgeous snake!
  • 04-09-2013, 10:34 PM
    BCBallPythons
    Potential new Calico
  • 04-09-2013, 10:50 PM
    gsarchie
    Wait, so you're saying that they are the same morph? If so, it hasn't been proven by breeding. I'll admit that I don't know much about the morph at this point, namely because I've never paid it much attention, but I will say that I know a very respectable and prominent breeder that is breeding the two morphs right now. Given that, and his belief that they are different, I will stick with that until shown otherwise.

    Either way, yes, he is very nice - thank you!
  • 04-09-2013, 10:59 PM
    Rage Beard Reptiles
    Potential new Calico
    I am a big calico fan! And that is a looker! I would love to pick up a female calico het hypo
  • 04-09-2013, 11:02 PM
    Andybill
    My favorite gene! And that guy looks great! Definitely have my vote on this one! :gj:
  • 04-09-2013, 11:25 PM
    gsarchie
    If Andrew likes it then I guess I have to, yeah? LOL Thanks man! I talked to the seller - he'll be mine as soon as he is paid for!

    @Bob - I have a female hypo that I don't have any serious plans for - I'll let you know if I end up putting this guy to her.
  • 04-09-2013, 11:26 PM
    Kaorte
    Now THAT is a nice calico!!!!
  • 04-09-2013, 11:32 PM
    gsarchie
    Crap...

    Looks like there may have been a miscommunication and that this male may already be sold. If so then he still has one with just as nice of a calico pattern but without the ringer. After seeing the one with the ringer I know that I wouldn't be happy with the other male, so if he is in fact sold then I will not be getting a calico after all. :( My fingers are crossed but it looks like I'll have to wait until tomorrow to find out.
  • 04-09-2013, 11:35 PM
    Kaorte
    Re: Potential new Calico
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gsarchie View Post
    Crap...

    Looks like there may have been a miscommunication and that this male may already be sold. If so then he still has one with just as nice of a calico pattern but without the ringer. After seeing the one with the ringer I know that I wouldn't be happy with the other male, so if he is in fact sold then I will not be getting a calico after all. :( My fingers are crossed but it looks like I'll have to wait until tomorrow to find out.

    Oh no!!!!! I hope he isn't sold! If he is.. time to hunt for another ringer calico. They are seriously stunning! My pastel calico has a ringer and it is awesome. I'm really hoping he passes it down. I hope to get some clutches from him next season.
  • 04-09-2013, 11:39 PM
    ChrisS
    Potential new Calico
    That's an awesome looking calico, hope he isn't already sold
  • 04-10-2013, 12:21 AM
    Royal Hijinx
    He looks great. Have you seen the Albino Calico? Your guy would be great plugged in to a project like that as well (or better maybe Lavender Albino).

    Good luck and I hope he is still available for you. I promise it was not me that bought him :rolleye2:
  • 04-10-2013, 12:50 AM
    Andybill
    Re: Potential new Calico
    [QUOTE=jinx667;2052706] Have you seen the Albino Calico? QUOTE]

    I have not! I must see this albino calico!

    EDIT: Found it and it ... is ... awesome! :D
  • 04-10-2013, 12:56 AM
    interloc
    Potential new Calico
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kaorte View Post
    Now THAT is a nice calico!!!!

    We were just talking about calicos. Lol
  • 04-10-2013, 04:00 PM
    tikigator
    Re: Potential new Calico
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gsarchie View Post
    Wait, so you're saying that they are the same morph? If so, it hasn't been proven by breeding. I'll admit that I don't know much about the morph at this point, namely because I've never paid it much attention, but I will say that I know a very respectable and prominent breeder that is breeding the two morphs right now. Given that, and his belief that they are different, I will stick with that until shown otherwise.

    Either way, yes, he is very nice - thank you!

    No to hijack your thread but since it's your own post :D I have to ask.....because I thought that a sugar and calico were the same thing as well, just 2 different lines. Like the flame and fire....pastel and citrus pastel....etc. I know some people say they are different like the lesser and butter but there are many people who still believe the lesser and butter are the same morph.

    I don't own any calico or sugars and I don't know much about them but I have been under the impression for a very long time that they ARE indeed the SAME morph. Anyone? :confusd:
  • 04-10-2013, 04:07 PM
    RoseyReps
    Re: Potential new Calico
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tikigator View Post
    No to hijack your thread but since it's your own post :D I have to ask.....because I thought that a sugar and calico were the same thing as well, just 2 different lines. Like the flame and fire....pastel and citrus pastel....etc. I know some people say they are different like the lesser and butter but there are many people who still believe the lesser and butter are the same morph.

    I don't own any calico or sugars and I don't know much about them but I have been under the impression for a very long time that they ARE indeed the SAME morph. Anyone? :confusd:

    I was under the same impression. Same morph, different lines.

    Anywho, total stunner! I hope everything works out for you to pick him up!
  • 04-10-2013, 09:28 PM
    gsarchie
    I guess it just comes down to semantics, then. When I think morph, I think one line of a morph or a morph all by itself (cinny, black pastel, VPI axanthic, SK, Joliff, etc., are all different morphs to me). I do accept that there are different liness of the same morph, however, like the ones in parenthesis (spelling?) above. I would call sugar and calico lines within the same "morph complex." The only way to prove it out, in my opinion, is to breed two lines together to see if they are compatible. Fire vs. lemonback, for example, are definitely different lines of the same "morph complex." Same super form, but compare a lemonback pastel to a firefly and the fire puts the lemonback in that combo to shame, every time. My two cents.

    He was sold. Time to start looking for another.
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