Possible Morph?

Hi, i was hoping to get some opinions about this female. An acquaintance purchased her as a normal female at the NH Reptile Expo, but she doesn't look like a normal to me. Any ideas what she could possibly be? I'm usually skeptical about dinkers, but i think this one really has something extra going on. Thanks!

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Lookin pretty Normal to me...


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Originally Posted by BCBallPythons

Lookin pretty Normal to me...


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Ok thanks. The black pattern running down the middle of her belly and the lack of any checkering is what got me thinking. She also has a pale yellow coming up from the belly, which i thought was unusual for a normal.

Could be just a normal but she also has some granite traits.

Her colour IS cool :). Thats the first thing i noticed. And she does have a little bit of a "granity" look to her, but lots of those traits turn out to just be the look of the snake and not genetic, so its hard to say.


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I have a dinker project going on with a African hatchling. He has that same kind of dark stomach going on. I'm going to mess with it. there is only 1 proven line of black belly out there. Look it up and hand have fun! Thats what dinker projects are all about! YOU NEVER KNOW! Good luck with her. I see normal until proven otherwise.

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Originally Posted by bubblz

Could be just a normal but she also has some granite traits.

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I agree.

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Originally Posted by BCBallPythons

Her colour IS cool :). Thats the first thing i noticed. And she does have a little bit of a "granity" look to her, but lots of those traits turn out to just be the look of the snake and not genetic, so its hard to say.

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I agree. BTW, i love the pastel calico in your avatar. It has a cool unusual look compared to others that i have seen.

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I have a dinker project going on with a African hatchling. He has that same kind of dark stomach going on. I'm going to mess with it. there is only 1 proven line of black belly out there. Look it up and hand have fun! Thats what dinker projects are all about! YOU NEVER KNOW! Good luck with her. I see normal until proven otherwise.

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Yeah, we were thinking possible black belly, but didn't know too much about them. She's definitely dinkworthy in my eyes. It should be a fun project for the guy who owns her.

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I have a dinker project going on with a African hatchling. He has that same kind of dark stomach going on. I'm going to mess with it. there is only 1 proven line of black belly out there. Look it up and hand have fun! Thats what dinker projects are all about! YOU NEVER KNOW! Good luck with her. I see normal until proven otherwise.

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Don't wanna hijack but the black belly line, I gotta question on that is the belly completely black? I had a guy I got some females from try and sell me a male that he said is black belly I've never seen one in person snake looked like a normal with a black belly. I thought he was lying since the girls I got were more of rescues so I turned him down..

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I agree.



I agree. BTW, i love the pastel calico in your avatar. It has a cool unusual look compared to others that i have seen..

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Thanks alot!! :) she laid 4 eggs for her first year a couple weeks ago. Cant wait to see her babies




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Don't wanna hijack but the black belly line, I gotta question on that is the belly completely black? I had a guy I got some females from try and sell me a male that he said is black belly I've never seen one in person snake looked like a normal with a black belly. I thought he was lying since the girls I got were more of rescues so I turned him down..

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There is only 1 or maybe 2 lines of black belly out there. Ian G started 1 line back in 09 and Outback Reptiles claims to have produced their own line as well. they are pretty rare! Next world Exotics has some for sale. 8500/6500 they are normal looking balls with really black stomachs! they have a darker overall color to them with a slightly reduced pattern. If you type black belly into Kingsnake.com you can find the ad with photos.

Hmm I'm gonna have to look it up he wasnt asking nearly that much but the snakes were more of rescues. The belly was all black tho, I didn't think it was a rare thing specially since its up here in Minnesota with someone who grabbed every snake they could to try an breed for cash, then failed breeding and keeping them properly so was bailing out of it all. I don't wanna have to kick myself :( but plus side they said all their males in their boy rack were dying except him an another normal so maybe for better.

The odds that it was a black belly are really rare. An animal can have a black stomach and not be a black belly. its all about proving it out. Normals come in many shapes, sizes, and colors. I wouldn't loose much sleep over it!

90% of all morphs have clear white stomachs.

X2 on the breeding it out. But if their male rack was dying off anyway, better safe than sorry-- no need to bring disease into your own collection.