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  • 04-05-2013, 01:11 PM
    h00blah
    Interesting video on the future of education.
    I thought this was cool, and figured maybe some of you would too :gj:.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vsCAM17O-M
  • 04-05-2013, 01:30 PM
    Mike41793
    Interesting video on the future of education.
    Thats kinda creepy lol.
    "Personal Aristotle for life that teaches you everything when it decides you need to learn it."
  • 04-05-2013, 01:41 PM
    h00blah
    Re: Interesting video on the future of education.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mike41793 View Post
    Thats kinda creepy lol.
    "Personal Aristotle for life that teaches you everything when it decides you need to learn it."

    Haha, it's just an idea :P. He stated some of the flaws of the current education system pretty well, and everyone has their own idea of how to improve it :gj:.
  • 04-05-2013, 01:46 PM
    carlson
    Interesting video on the future of education.
    If something like this can be put into works an works as they hope I can see it being a cool thing. Would have been nice for school to not have been so slow for me I would have gotten in less trouble!:)
  • 04-05-2013, 02:22 PM
    reptileexperts
    The future of our education and society for the US in two simple forms.

    1) Korn - Evolution music video
    2) Idiocracy - Movie.

    Truth
  • 04-05-2013, 02:35 PM
    h00blah
    Re: Interesting video on the future of education.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by reptileexperts View Post
    The future of our education and society for the US in two simple forms.

    1) Korn - Evolution music video
    2) Idiocracy - Movie.

    Truth

    LOL. Idiocracy is such a great movie!! It's sad how slowly but surely, things are ending up that way :(!! I have to watch that music video though :gj:!
  • 04-05-2013, 04:06 PM
    reptileexperts
    The music video touches on the same ideas but empowers the fact that politics are bought in the US thus eliminating true progression away from the de-evolution of man . . . sad day.
  • 04-05-2013, 04:59 PM
    ewaldrep
    Re: Interesting video on the future of education.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by reptileexperts View Post
    1) Korn - Evolution music video

    Interesting video, not surprisingly however, it is not correct. The average IQ actually tends to increase over time, its a phenomena called the Flynn Effect
  • 04-05-2013, 05:34 PM
    reptileexperts
    Given enough tough, it can happen. Its a factor that will push evolution, as one selective trait continues to progress at a higher rate than the other trait the mean will lean toward one side and continue to grow in that direction. It's simple math really. Regardless of theories suggesting that the average IQ will always rise - and the Lemarkian theories that what took us so long to learn will take our kids no time at all to master - is only true to those who have those desired traits. But as you look at the standpoint of lower IQ genes reproducing faster, they begin to out number the high IQ genes thus becoming selected.

    Now, unless someone wants to play hitler and start a new round of eugenics, this trait could possibly continue for a long time. At least in the U.S.
  • 04-05-2013, 07:26 PM
    gsarchie
    Pretty cool, thanks for sharing!
  • 04-05-2013, 09:26 PM
    bubblz
    Nice,.. I don't see why not, since over time education will become more individually specialized any. We've already reached a point where people can't perform basic gender rolls that were pretty much required back in the day. People that don't know how to cook, clean or even fix little things around the house, male, female, teenagers or what ever. As technology gets better there will be even more machines to take care of things like that. Giving people more time to concentrate on specific training and education.

    It's one of the things I think about when watching futuristic high tech movies. Even today, how many people have basic survival skills? At times I don't see how so many people can be so dependent on one thing or even one person. What happens when that person or thing is no longer around, can they pull themselves up and stand on their own two feet? Or will they be so dependent that they'll have to latch on (if their able) to someone or something else?
  • 04-05-2013, 10:44 PM
    Raven01
    Re: Interesting video on the future of education.
    Personal tutors for everyone?
    What happened to involved parents?

    Relying on the internet to teach our children is even goofier than relying on schools.
    Both are no more than tools or aides to education.
  • 04-06-2013, 02:57 AM
    h00blah
    Re: Interesting video on the future of education.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Raven01 View Post
    Personal tutors for everyone?
    What happened to involved parents?

    Relying on the internet to teach our children is even goofier than relying on schools.
    Both are no more than tools or aides to education.

    My parents are pretty smart to me, but they're not Aristotle. You missed one of the core points lol. My parents taught me good morals and manners. They can't teach me calculus lol.

    The video specifically mentioned youtube being a source for information, not the internet in general. There's spam and trash all over the internet, including youtube, but the idea was to ensure only helpful videos are linked. Videos by great teachers.. It's just some interesting thoughts of how youtube can help educate (as it already does)...
    Edit: by "great teachers", I'm referring to people who are passionate about spreading knowledge and information to people, and who do it in such a way that the people they're teaching are able to maintain interest.

    How many how-to videos have you seen on any subject? I needed one to solder my heat tape for my snake racks... I needed a few to finally figure out how to pop my snakes, though I recommend learning from someone in person lol. I also learned a great deal about some of my favorite snakes. I learned how to pre-scent rodents via youtube. Just saying..
  • 04-06-2013, 12:11 PM
    kitedemon
    I work in higher education and it is already being done. Lynda for example a prof will sometimes not be able to answer a specific question about a side branch of the class topic and point to Lynda to fill the gaps.

    I think that for higher education this is likely going to be true to a point. Internet can only teach ideas. Practical skill is not going to come from internet. You can learn the theory of welding for example but given the tools needed you may not be able to actually weld at all.

    The issues at the lower levels is simple how many kids hate math or history or fill in your blank. I loved history biology and hated math and french. An elementary school teacher is needed to not only impart information but keep the unwilling on track. You may not like math but you still need to use it. A student (like myself at that age) may not like a subject and may never excel at it but still need it. Self directed learning assumes the drive and discipline to learn.

    Where I teach we have a large number of foreign students they need to pass a use of english exam both written and a phone interview. How is it that we currently have students who cannot process simple spoken instructions and require a translator to follow? Easy they did not write the exam or take the phone interview. The internet also cannot sort out one student from another. This is also the issue with massive class sizes in university too, but often this is only the lower levels and at some point the classes shrink and this is no longer possible. Where I work out largest class is 150 and the smallest is 2. You can't hide in a class of under 40 if you don't know the subject the prof will notice.

    I see the point but there are huge practical gaps in the structure of the argument. I think that perhaps a internet learning system can work but at the end of the day a class still needs a 'moderator' at its heart. The size of a class to be effective cannot be larger than the level of personal direct recognition. Teachers cannot know everything they cannot address every students needs 100% of the time but also cannot be replaced by software.

    He did mention the under current of school schools take feral children and shape them to adults. That is the base function of schools, elementary schools train protocols (raise your hand with a question) jr high adds to this and has more cause and effect. High school teaches discipline (self) and responsibility. College/university polishes adults.

    Sadly even this is breaking down now, the first year of university is now often spent on attempting to teach self control. It is quite a shock when a first year walks into my office and proclaims they didn't bother to do the assignment and I look at them and tell them I don't care if they do it or not. If I have finished marking all the others and they ones outstanding that didn't contact me (I don't chase after anyone) they fail. They can very easily contact me and if something comes up but if they don't not my problem.
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