HoneyBee?

I put this on Layaway because I really wanted to prove it out. It was sold as a Spider but I wanted to take the chances that this was an GhostxSpider >>> HoneyBee. The color really doesn't look great in photo because I took this photo with my phone. The snake has Yellow/Gold blotching all around belly area. The BP also has the bright honey color to it. The Spider lines are very faint. Light Black/Brown. I'm just getting into BP's so I don't know a lot about them right now. So any input would be awesome! Thanks Guys!




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Hmm the coloring doesn't look quite right to be a honeybee to my eyeballs but it certainly doesn't look right to be a regular spider either. So it may just be, like you said, poor coloring from your camera (sometimes its so hard to capture accurate color with our cameras, esp our phones!) But the "black" doesn't look "black" to me or even near dark brown enough to be a regular spider. So I would lean on the side of spider ghost....maybe it's a spider ghost just not spider orange ghost? I'm not super experienced on ghosts...but I do know there can be a different effect with some morphs (like mimoas and the glows) when a regular hypo is used opposed to an orange ghost.

So if I had to vote, I vote honeybee!......and if I had to give you breeding advice I would say breed it to a ghost....so that way if for some reason it's not, at least you get 100% offspring. GL!

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Originally Posted by tikigator

Hmm the coloring doesn't look quite right to be a honeybee to my eyeballs but it certainly doesn't look right to be a regular spider either. So it may just be, like you said, poor coloring from your camera (sometimes its so hard to capture accurate color with our cameras, esp our phones!) But the "black" doesn't look "black" to me or even near dark brown enough to be a regular spider. So I would lean on the side of spider ghost....maybe it's a spider ghost just not spider orange ghost? I'm not super experienced on ghosts...but I do know there can be a different effect with some morphs (like mimoas and the glows) when a regular hypo is used opposed to an orange ghost.

So if I had to vote, I vote honeybee!......and if I had to give you breeding advice I would say breed it to a ghost....so that way if for some reason it's not, at least you get 100% offspring. GL!

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Thanks for the input tikigator ; Yeah there really is not black at all. It's more of a brown/light brown on spider lines. So I'm hoping to prove it out as a HoneyBee! I'm definitely keep an eye out for a deal on a female ghost or Het.

I dont see a honeybee. Looks like a single gene spider

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Originally Posted by iCandiBallPythons

I dont see a honeybee. Looks like a single gene spider

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With the lines being light brown and the honey color you think single gene spider? I just have never seen a single gene spider with these colors. All spiders I've seen have black lines

So I found this photo. The larger snake of the three is the HoneyBee: The snake I put on Layaway looks exactly like the snake in photo. I hope this helps! P.S. as I said the phone camera really didn't do justice especially in a dark room. I will try and get more photos up later.

http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...psd354a732.jpg

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Originally Posted by iCandiBallPythons

I dont see a honeybee. Looks like a single gene spider

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X2....

Ive seen Spiders that have the same coloring as this one. Just like all Morphs, they vary. No harm in breeding to a visual ghost tho just for kicks!


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Originally Posted by BCBallPythons

X2....

Ive seen Spiders that have the same coloring as this one. Just like all Morphs, they vary. No harm in breeding to a visual ghost tho just for kicks!


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Appreciate your input. I will get more photo's later. I have a hard time seeing a single gene with the colors this thing has. The camera made it look dark. I also shot this through glass.

Looks spider to me too. Spiders, as with any morph, can have a variety of looks.

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Originally Posted by DooLittle

Looks spider to me too. Spiders, as with any morph, can have a variety of looks.

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I understand, just have not seen a single gene with such a bright yellow contrast. I'll get some more pics today.

It looks like a spider to me...its sitting directly under a lamp, so the black lines look lighter and "washed out". If you look at the head and neck area(which is further away from the light in the picture) the black lines def look black. More pics in different lighting would help.

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Originally Posted by Sketchy

I understand, just have not seen a single gene with such a bright yellow contrast. I'll get some more pics today.

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I see no honeybee in your picture, but it is a nice looking spider.

I used to have a spider male that was so bright that for the longest I was thinking it was more than just a spider because it looked similar to a fire spider then started thinking it was a yellowbelly spider, drove me crazy but in the end it was just a beautiful spider male.

http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/...agv1990/ns.png

I'm not seeing a Honeybee either.

Okay, I'll have to agree with "It's not a HoneyBee".

But, I honestly believe it has something besides Single Spider Gene: Here are some more photos. Again these are taken with my Note 2 so the BP still looks pretty dark. There is absolutely ZERO black on the snake. All lines are brown/light brown.

http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...ps98fbc57c.jpg

http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...ps2d09b51d.jpg

http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8608432d.jpg

Any ideas? Or sill agreeing to Single Gene Spider?

Looks like a light spider to me.


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I would say it's a Spider.

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Originally Posted by cschneider

Looks like a light spider to me.


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Originally Posted by SSALB

I would say it's a Spider.

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I can always cancel my Layaway haha. I already have a Male spider. & if this is truly just a spider then I may cancel. I'm going to see if I get anymore replies. I appreciate everyone's input. You guys have really helped in this discussion.

Just weird because I have never seen a Spider with light brown instead of the original black...

I still say single gene spider.

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I still say single gene spider.

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Thanks, so if it is a nice very light spider; will it produce spiders of similar? What would you price it at? It's a male probably around 700g.

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Originally Posted by Sketchy

Thanks, so if it is a nice very light spider; will it produce spiders of similar? What would you price it at? It's a male probably around 700g.

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I would say 100-125 being generous.... It's a high quality spider yes but I got a male last week at 2,200 grams for $150 and almost as light in color as that.

its a nice looking spider. Id say anything between 100-300 is a good price.

The second set of photos you took make him look like just a light spider. The first photo you posted maker his brown seem super light but maybe that's because it was taken thru the glass. 2nd set of photos look like just a light spider. But he is nice and maybe worthy of the male you already have? Idk....upto you :) I agree he does look very nice and light but his color still isn't quite right for a honey bee.

Definitely not a honeybee. If you bought it as a spider what makes you think it's a honeybee, just the color? Like others said spiders can be really light, really dark, really gold, really brown, etc.

We just picked up this spider het hypo, now that I could see as a possibility, but not a honeybee. I would not buy it planning on it being a het hypo though, just a fun project to try. A breeder would not mistake a spider for a honeybee.
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...ps790cb45a.jpg

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Definitely not a honeybee. If you bought it as a spider what makes you think it's a honeybee, just the color? Like others said spiders can be really light, really dark, really gold, really brown, etc.

We just picked up this spider het hypo, now that I could see as a possibility, but not a honeybee. I would not buy it planning on it being a het hypo though, just a fun project to try. A breeder would not mistake a spider for a honeybee.
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...ps790cb45a.jpg

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I'm new to them so I'm not super educated on morphs. Yeah we came to the conclusion that it possibly has some Hypo considering the very light light color. It can't be proven until someone breeds it. I think I will hold off for now on it as I already have another male spider. Thank you everyone!

If it's just a spider, it's gorgeous. However, I wonder if it may carry a BEL complex gene along with it. It looks like it could be something like a mojo spider, or mystic spider, or something. Maybe I'm wrong, who knows. Gotta breed it to prove it. Definitely a light, light spider.

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If it's just a spider, it's gorgeous. However, I wonder if it may carry a BEL complex gene along with it. It looks like it could be something like a mojo spider, or mystic spider, or something. Maybe I'm wrong, who knows. Gotta breed it to prove it. Definitely a light, light spider.

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Funny you should say that I just saw a picture on facebook of a lesser spider and it totally reminded me of the one posted here. I was on my phone and didn't save the picture and now of course I can't find it to save my life but it really was similar...had the same very very light brown and reduced pattern. Maybe worth replacing the male spider you have and dinking around. Even if he doesn't prove you still have a nice male breeder spider.