My Newest Addition

Was at NARBC last month and just couldn't resist, Marc Bailey was practically giving her away, haha.

My newest girlie:
Ivory Spider female

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nice :)

i mean, seems to be a trustworthy breeder, but how do you identify the spider? is it visible under UV light, or does it show wobble / behavior typical for spider?

i dont want to imply anything, im just asking, whats the marker? there has to be one :)

I think I can actually see the hint of spider pattern on her back.
pretty sweet.

Yes, in the second photo you can see it best. You can see a slight pattern to her, and its chocolaty purple in color, and the dorsal stripe of the ivory is completely gone with the spider gene. Not to mention Marc is a very reputable breeder.

oh, yes, thats the answer for my question :)

you could still make pictures of the fluorescence under UV light, its a method that COULD work very well for identifying stuff in white snakes, but unfortunately this potentially good method cannot really be used because reference data is missing.

so you look at your super fire (+ other genes) or super yellowbelly (+ other genes) or blue eye lucy (+ other genes) under UV light, and see things, but you just have nothing to compare it to, no reference, because noone publishes images of such snakes under UV fluorescence. i mean, ive literally seen 1 video and a few pictures of it, and i regularly search for this stuff. and all that i have seen just isnt enough to judge snakes based on appearance under UV, the data points are too few and too far inbetween. its a bit frustrating.

but yes, i do see things in this snake that are more than just ivory, if i take the second image and turn down the brightness i see some pattern.

It is hard to see in pictures, but in person is much easier to tell. She has a bit of that spider head pattern. Unfortunately I do not have just a straight Ivory, we do have a BEL but not sure that would work quite the same.

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But whatever she is she is AWESOME looking, and was a great price anyway so i am not upset. Haha.

That truly a gorgeous snake. I can see in the second pic some of the dorsal patterns in plain lighting. If you have a UV light could you post a pic of her under it please? I'm hoping some BEL's this year and would love to see the difference in lighting. Either way you have a beautiful Ivory Spider girl. Thanks for sharing.

If someone wants to search I posted up pics of a Lesser Mojave BEL under black light for reference (for BELs that is).

Very nice Ivory Spider!

Beautiful girl!

Coooooool :)

beautiful girl! I got my spider girl from Marc at the NARBC last August!