yellowbelly?

Hi people i`m a bit of a noob,i bought from a pet shop last year because of head and belly pattern,he was £20 as he was an assist feeder but i thought he could be a yellowbelly,any help would be great
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thanks

doesn't look like one to me.
interesting head stamp though, better pic of that would be nice.

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low quality yb

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Originally Posted by snakesRkewl

low quality yb

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Is it worth using him to breed?could he produce better quality yb`s

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Originally Posted by king 66

Is it worth using him to breed?could he produce better quality yb`s

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If you put low quality in then you will get low quality out. I wouldn't breed him. I would spend a little more money and just get a quality yb from a legitimate breeder

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I think the head stamp is interesting but I'm not even sure it's a yellow belly. No flames, the belly doesn't seem right to me. Jkobylka has a video on identifying yellowbellies if that is helpful.

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Originally Posted by MorphMaster

I think the head stamp is interesting but I'm not even sure it's a yellow belly. No flames, the belly doesn't seem right to me. Jkobylka has a video on identifying yellowbellies if that is helpful.

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Very 1st pic shows half a dozen rather high flames.

This might help.
http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...rphs-Het-Ivory

The head stamp does look a bit unusual but, I can't say if that is an aberration or something else at play.

Now i am confused :confusd:

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Originally Posted by Raven01

Very 1st pic shows half a dozen rather high flames.

This might help.
http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...rphs-Het-Ivory

The head stamp does look a bit unusual but, I can't say if that is an aberration or something else at play.

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From yellowbellies I have seen and what breeders say are that true flames at orange or red. The white is just normal blushing and reduction is pigment. It's common in normals. Either way its a nice normal, or a very bad example of a yellowbelly

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Originally Posted by MorphMaster

From yellowbellies I have seen and what breeders say are that true flames at orange or red. The white is just normal blushing and reduction is pigment. It's common in normals. Either way its a nice normal, or a very bad example of a yellowbelly

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I haven't seen many that retain the orange very long and personally haven't seen anything I would consider to be red in a ball python. A straight yellowbelly/het ivory can look very much like an odd normal. Snakes like this are why people love playing with dinkers still.
Really wishing next world exotics page wasn't suspended, they had a point by point break down of key point of some morph...... Actually did a user here not do something similar?
Ohhh, yes they did but they may have linked to the original images instead of saving and re-posting with attributation to content creator.
http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...rphs-Het-Ivory

That looks YB to me from the headstamp and flames. Not one i'd wanna breed though.

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Originally Posted by Raven01

I haven't seen many that retain the orange very long and personally haven't seen anything I would consider to be red in a ball python. A straight yellowbelly/het ivory can look very much like an odd normal. Snakes like this are why people love playing with dinkers still.
Really wishing next world exotics page wasn't suspended, they had a point by point break down of key point of some morph...... Actually did a user here not do something similar?
Ohhh, yes they did but they may have linked to the original images instead of saving and re-posting with attributation to content creator.
http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...rphs-Het-Ivory

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yes i did see page of the link you posted when the images were still there and i thought there were a lot of similarities.

Looks like a YB to me. One thing to consider.... A baby Yb can have a smoking belly pattern that is unmistakably YB. Then as the snake gets older it gets harder to tell. The belly pattern changes. As far as ugly snakes producing ugly babies goes..... I say hogwash. All ugly snakes can produce fantastic babies as well as all fantastic snakes can produce ugly babies. Most people want great looking snakes in their collection and that is understandable...... but it doesn’t mean jack really when it comes to breeding.

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Originally Posted by TessadasExotics

Looks like a YB to me. One thing to consider.... A baby Yb can have a smoking belly pattern that is unmistakably YB. Then as the snake gets older it gets harder to tell. The belly pattern changes. As far as ugly snakes producing ugly babies goes..... I say hogwash. All ugly snakes can produce fantastic babies as well as all fantastic snakes can produce ugly babies. Most people want great looking snakes in their collection and that is understandable...... but it doesn’t mean jack really when it comes to breeding.

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I was thinking along those lines "ugly snakes can produce fantastic babies" as me and the wife are ugly yet produced a pretty daughter:D

I say he's a YB too

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Originally Posted by king 66

I was thinking along those lines "ugly snakes can produce fantastic babies" as me and the wife are ugly yet produced a pretty daughter:D

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LOL :rofl:

ok thanks people YB it is then:gj:

I wouldn't go as far as to say it's a YB just yet since it was not purchased as one, at least until you can prove it out as being genetic. Say you decide to sell it as a YB down the road and the buyer breeds it and it ends up being a nothing genetic, the buyer is going to be coming to you for answers and/or money back plus your reputation gets trashed. That being said, I would dink around with that; who knows you might end up with something more then a YB.

to many different opinions:confusd:

There are a couple different lines of YB out there and variances among those two are common lighter, darker, head stamp no head stamp nice belly not so nice belly.

To the OP I see a YB 100% go ahead and prove it produce one of the nicer snakes out there an ivory.😃

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Originally Posted by Emilio

To the OP I see a YB 100% go ahead and prove it produce one of the nicer snakes out there an ivory.

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That is what i had in mind but didnt want to waste a female if it is a normal

As long as you get good eggs, you're never wasting a female. The same is true with a male. I really dont u derstand why people think this way. Just dont breed to a normal. Problem solved.