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Clown x Pied surprise!

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  • 03-08-2013, 07:38 PM
    Serpents_Den
    Clown x Pied surprise!
    I bred my Clown to a Pied and this is one of two Pieds hatching. To my knowledge the Clown was not het Pied.

    http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...ps4f6cdd56.jpg

    http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...psd2d71f32.jpg
  • 03-08-2013, 07:42 PM
    NormanSnake
    Wow! beautiful snakes!
  • 03-08-2013, 07:46 PM
    Fortune
    Re: Clown x Pied surprise!
    sweet colors!!! so cool
  • 03-08-2013, 07:47 PM
    h00blah
    ha! what luck!
  • 03-08-2013, 07:56 PM
    Jons2012pied
    Re: Clown x Pied surprise!
    Is the female pied. Could it be possible that she retained Soren from a het pied or pied from last year. That's if she was bred last year. If not then now you know you have a clown het pied and I bet it is worth a lot more than what you paid for it.
  • 03-08-2013, 08:01 PM
    Emilio
    Re: Clown x Pied surprise!
    Wow talk about luck Grats!!!
  • 03-08-2013, 08:03 PM
    Serpents_Den
    Re: Clown x Pied surprise!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jons2012pied View Post
    Is the female pied. Could it be possible that she retained Soren from a het pied or pied from last year. That's if she was bred last year. If not then now you know you have a clown het pied and I bet it is worth a lot more than what you paid for it.

    She was to immature last season to breed and I have no record of her being with my Mojave Pied and she's only been paired several times starting in Sept and laid 2 viable eggs on Jan 11th.
  • 03-08-2013, 08:44 PM
    SlitherinSisters
    Wow you are a lucky one!!! Congrats!
  • 03-08-2013, 08:45 PM
    BHReptiles
    Re: Clown x Pied surprise!
    Talk about odds! Very nice!
  • 03-08-2013, 08:48 PM
    Mike41793
    Clown x Pied surprise!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jons2012pied View Post
    Is the female pied. Could it be possible that she retained Soren from a het pied or pied from last year. That's if she was bred last year. If not then now you know you have a clown het pied and I bet it is worth a lot more than what you paid for it.

    You can tell from the pic that the female is the pied. The clown was probably like a poss het that the breeder just sold as a regular clown. I call that good luck! Congrats!
  • 03-08-2013, 09:54 PM
    Serpents_Den
    Re: Clown x Pied surprise!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mike41793 View Post
    You can tell from the pic that the female is the pied. The clown was probably like a poss het that the breeder just sold as a regular clown. I call that good luck! Congrats!


    I talked with John Woolard who produced my Clowns and he didn't have any Clown Pied projects but it's very possible that generations before someone possibly could have and it's being looked into.

    - - - Updated - - -

    I'm not going to say my Clown is het Pied until I prove it out by future breeding.
  • 03-08-2013, 10:12 PM
    MarkS
    That's awsome good luck. Congratulations.
  • 03-08-2013, 10:37 PM
    Serpents_Den
    Re: Clown x Pied surprise!
    We have a female!

    http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...ps3c20958d.jpg

    I hope the next one is a male!
  • 03-08-2013, 11:00 PM
    buddha1200
    great odds,keep us updated.
  • 03-08-2013, 11:11 PM
    Jonas@Balls2TheWall
    Gotta love those surprises! Hopefully it ends up being pied het clown for ya. How do the siblings look?
  • 03-08-2013, 11:47 PM
    Serpents_Den
    Re: Clown x Pied surprise!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jonas@Balls2TheWall View Post
    Gotta love those surprises! Hopefully it ends up being pied het clown for ya. How do the siblings look?

    Thanks the only other sibling is another Pied which I'm hoping leaves the eggs soon.
  • 03-08-2013, 11:53 PM
    BHReptiles
    Re: Clown x Pied surprise!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Serpents_Den View Post
    We have a female!

    http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...ps3c20958d.jpg

    I hope the next one is a male!


    KILLER odds! Could you pass along some luck to me? Pretty please?
  • 03-08-2013, 11:55 PM
    Jonas@Balls2TheWall
    Re: Clown x Pied surprise!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Serpents_Den View Post
    Thanks the only other sibling is another Pied which I'm hoping leaves the eggs soon.

    Well jeesh 2 unexpected pieds out of 2 eggs, go play the lotto.
  • 03-09-2013, 12:01 AM
    Solarsoldier001
    Clown x Pied surprise!
    Pretty amazing surprised. I wouldn't mind getting that kind of surprise


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  • 03-09-2013, 11:05 AM
    SWFLA
    Congrats! What odds! And what a looker.
  • 03-09-2013, 01:13 PM
    nimblykimbly
    Clown x Pied surprise!
    Wow!! Very nice!


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  • 03-09-2013, 04:59 PM
    Serpents_Den
  • 03-10-2013, 01:55 AM
    chago11
    Re: Clown x Pied surprise!
    This is just a theory but with both being females could be a chance of it being parthenogenesis. Hard to tell from the pics but both hatchlings look almost identical to mom so it might be possible. Than again with a male being introduce I would think he would have gotten the job done.
  • 03-10-2013, 02:46 AM
    loonunit
    I don't think that's parthenogenesis. Mom looks like a regular low-white. Those babies look like they have some clown influence going on.
  • 03-10-2013, 02:57 AM
    Marrissa
    Those babies are really neat looking! Just more reasons and examples to fuel my infatuation with pies.
  • 03-10-2013, 03:40 AM
    elbee
    Wow. What crazy odds, and whatever the reason, beautiful babies!
  • 03-10-2013, 11:21 AM
    MS2
    Very interesting animals. So a Clown Pied would still keep the Pied head pattern? Are there Clown Pieds out there with a Clown head pattern? Just curious.
  • 03-10-2013, 11:28 AM
    jbean7916
    Re: Clown x Pied surprise!
    Way to kill the odds! Two eggs, two pied and two females to boot? Amazing!

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  • 03-10-2013, 12:06 PM
    4theSNAKElady
    Re: Clown x Pied surprise!
    Have you been making sacrifices to the ball gods??? Lol...that's awesome luck. A great start for future pied clown projects :gj:
  • 03-10-2013, 10:05 PM
    Serpents_Den
    Re: Clown x Pied surprise!
    Thanks for all the comments!

    I'll post more pics sometime after they shed.
  • 03-11-2013, 08:45 AM
    BPro927
    Clown x Pied surprise!
    That is one awesome looking snake!
  • 03-11-2013, 11:39 AM
    Solarsoldier001
    Clown x Pied surprise!
    They are so pretty


    Sent from iPhone 5 using tapatalk :)
  • 03-11-2013, 12:42 PM
    JohnNJ
    I have nothing clever to say. Just :O

    Congrats!
  • 03-25-2013, 05:09 PM
    Serpents_Den
    Re: Clown x Pied surprise!
    Both have recently shed and fed; here's a pic of the prettier of the two.

    http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...psf12c1c81.jpg
  • 03-25-2013, 05:13 PM
    TessadasExotics
    Well looks like you have a clown het pied male.......... and some pieds het clown babies!

    Congrats :gj:
  • 03-27-2013, 04:42 PM
    Serpents_Den
    Re: Clown x Pied surprise!
    Here's a pic of the other girl. :)

    http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...psdc22c3db.jpg
  • 03-27-2013, 05:20 PM
    bLlOoVoEd
    Beautiful! Congrats on awesome odds!!
  • 09-27-2014, 01:15 PM
    kris88
    Re: Clown x Pied surprise!
    You said you werent going to state your clown was infact het pied untill you know for certain? But if the wasnt bred before... then surely the clown HAS to be het pied if you got 2 pieds out? Lol... am i missing somthing or isnt that pretty much common sense??
  • 09-27-2014, 01:49 PM
    stoaob3
    Re: Clown x Pied surprise!
    Yeah its pretty much certain
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