Would you breed this Spider?

I know there is a thread going around about breeding quality stock animals. I recently picked up this 2012 female Spider from a well-known breeder. Price aside, she wowed me when I saw her for the very first time: Nice black lines, high white sides, minimal dots (like 3 on her whole body), and no noticeable wobble. I paid a little more for her than an "average" Spider. I was hoping to pick up a male Super Pastel this fall to mate her with in a couple years. I am NOT looking to be a professional breeder...just a hobbyist...but also want to make sure I am contributing to good stock and not hurting our community...Your thoughts are much appreciated.

Here is my 2012 female Spider:

http://www.ballophile.com/public/isis1.jpg

I think she's a great-looking girl :)

Cant hurt the community if your helping it grow:banana:

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Originally Posted by ballophile

I know there is a thread going around about breeding quality stock animals. I recently picked up this 2012 female Spider from a well-known breeder. Price aside, she wowed me when I saw her for the very first time: Nice black lines, high white sides, minimal dots (like 3 on her whole body), and no noticeable wobble. I paid a little more for her than an "average" Spider. I was hoping to pick up a male Super Pastel this fall to mate her with in a couple years. I am NOT looking to be a professional breeder...just a hobbyist...but also want to make sure I am contributing to good stock and not hurting our community...Your thoughts are much appreciated.

Here is my 2012 female Spider:

http://www.ballophile.com/public/isis1.jpg

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Absolutely, I love her pattern! A super pastel would be a great match!

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Originally Posted by Haddady's RnR

Cant hurt the community if your helping it grow:banana:

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Sir, I nominate you for the best post of the night! Great succinct point!

I agree, she looks good. I like clean spiders, minimal to no spots.

She's better than my spider! I love her.

Thanks everyone. I just want to make sure if I am successful breeding her in a couple years, I just want to make sure I will be placing good stock out there. I know even with good parents, less desirables can be made, but with only a hobbyist direction, I can spend the extra dollars to get a good start and hopefully put out more good quality snakes.

I still have plenty of time to learn...just don't have the "eye" yet...but with your help and continued patience, I know I'll be on the right path.

Again, my sincere gratitude helping me learn!


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She looks great to me! I would buy a straight pastel so that you know the quality of the heterozygous individual. It can be somewhat hard to judge what a super pastel with either produce or what they came from because they can be so faded, although I've seen some that my pastel puts to shame. Either way, your call, and the spider is a stunner.

with super pastel, offspring will be 50% pastel spider 50% pastel.

with pastel, offspring will be 25% pastel spider, 25% pastel, 25% spider, 25% normal. clearly inferior.

just get a super pastel and ask for pictures of the parents.

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Originally Posted by Kurtilein

with super pastel, offspring will be 50% pastel spider 50% pastel.

with pastel, offspring will be 25% pastel spider, 25% pastel, 25% spider, 25% normal. clearly inferior.

just get a super pastel and ask for pictures of the parents.

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Holy cow, he's right! Thanks for doing that math for me, I cleary see now why I was wrong.

Beautiful Spider! Super pastel is a excellent idea! But if u ever want to get super creative... Fine your self a butter fire male! Nuclear spider!

Yes they will probably be a bit more expensive about 3-4 times more, but hey... That's why we are in it! I wanna make something not many people have!

Good luck are you beautiful spider!

If you do go the super pastel route, be VERY selective. Some look great as babies, but terrible as adults. And then there are those that look terrible no matter the age. If you can find a high yellow super with lots of blushing and a faded head sitting at around 500 grams, then you'll have an excellent idea of what it will look like as an adult. Don't fall for a high yellow hatchling, because odds better than even it won't look nearly as nice once it hits around 8 months old.

Now, as for your spider. That one picture isn't a lot, but she has a great reduced pattern with what appears to be deep black lines. She appears to be a mid-high white, so chances are good she'll throw some nice mid white bees. Of course, bumblebees aren't the only way to go with spiders. There are a large number of spider combos out there to look into, who knows you might find something new to tickle your fancy.

Gale