guy wants to trade, but to me it looks really bad,thoughts?

So some guy on CL wants to trade leos for his bp saying he don't know gender that it's beautiful and it eats frozen and has nice colors.Say's it might be a morph Then tells me his wife has cancer and wants to find the snake a home. And that his wife don't like the snake.then say's he's willing to trade for leos because he has 3 now. Well i've been waitin for pictures for a while now and today he finally sent me one well i don't know if it's just me or does this snake look really baddd???


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It looks underfed and like it's had several bad sheds. It does look like it could use rescuing, but I don't think I'd feel good giving him more animals in exchange for it.

EDIT: It's not a morph for sure, just a clean, reduced pattern normal. I'm sure it would be beautiful with better husbandry, bigger meals, and quite possibly a trip to the vet.

The snake looks really bad. :O:(:(:(

Seriously, stuck shed all over and very thin, cage is inadequate, water dish is dirty. If you want to rescue the snake, that's one thing. But I wouldn't be trading any leos for it. If the guy's treated his snake this way, who know how well he'll take care of the leos???

And this doesn't look like any morph to me (keep in mind, the bulk of my experience is with boas, not balls). Seems to be a very "normal" normal.

Looks underweight, and has stuck shed from what I can see? Poor guy. Water bowl looks nasty too....

dont do it. looks like it has tons of stuck shed to it.

That poor snake

I would never trade with him after seeing the picture, i saw the picture and my stomach dropped.

A trade is trading a healthy animal in exchange for another healthy animal, that's a business transaction.

This is a RESCUE, he wants it out and given the condition he should simply be grateful that someone wants to give this animal a chance.

How do you think your geckos would be taken care of by this person?

That poor baby...

This is probably terrible advice, but I would be inclined to tell him if he gives me the snake, I won't report him for animal abuse. Don't pay him for the snake, as that is not rescuing, it's just enabling him to continue his crap-care.




Also...I would probably report him anyways... :mad:

i would never give him my leos for his snake and im about to ask him what his leos look like now because there probably in terrible condition also.

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That poor baby...

This is probably terrible advice, but I would be inclined to tell him if he gives me the snake, I won't report him for animal abuse. Don't pay him for the snake, as that is not rescuing, it's just enabling him to continue his crap-care.




Also...I would probably report him anyways... :mad:

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Sadly...I agree. This snake needs to be rescued and will require quite a bit of rehabilitation. He should be reported for animal abuse and I would absolutely not provide any more animals to him for fear he would mistreat and abuse them. See if you can rescue the snake or find someone in the area with means to rescue and rehab him, he will be a lot of work but the poor guy deserves it.

Also, I see you are in MA. If you need help with this, I am in New Hampshire and work in MA with veterinary hospitals including some exotics hospitals. I am more than happy to help you with this or possibly take him in and help rehab him.

smh that person doesnt need anymore snakes

That person shouldn't have any animals PERIOD. That is absolutely atrocious to leave any living creature in such a state. The snake deserves to be rescued and this jerk deserves to be reported for animal cruelty. Definitely, no matter what you do, do NOT give this guy your Leos. They will suffer horribly and probably be dead within a year or two. Man, nothing makes my blood boil more than seeing any animal suffering due to the inadequate care of an idiot. If you do decide to buy this snake and rehabilitate it, definitely practice strict quarantine procedures. It will more than likely have a bad mite infestation, quite possibly have an RI and will need veterinary care to get it back on the right track. Best of luck!

Wow is that mold in tha snakes water bowl? You really should take tha snake in just to improve its state of life, don't give him anymore animals, obviously he doesn't respect them as living creatures... but maybe offer like 20-30 bucks which is completely worth it jus to save that animal.

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Also, I see you are in MA. If you need help with this, I am in New Hampshire and work in MA with veterinary hospitals including some exotics hospitals. I am more than happy to help you with this or possibly take him in and help rehab him.

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^ THIS is part of what I love about BP.net! Kudos to you and way to be standup!

To the OP: I wouldn't trade a dead stale housefly for that animal, if it were me. He looks to be in bad shape as has been noted and husbandry is non-existent there. If you're able to, absolutely rescue him but be prepared for what that could entail: potential exposure of your collection to illness/disease, several hundred dollars invested in vet visits only to have the animal die anyway, etc. Rescuing one is a noble thing to do but be sure you can take on the responsibility of a sick, potentially dying animal before you jump in and let your emotions lead your head. Good luck and hope it works out for the best for you and that poor animal both.

She's still on, long and skinny, switching stories! Stinks to me!

Any updates on this? Can anyone share the link for me? I feel terrible for this little snake.
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Wow that snake looks horrible I feel so bad for it :( looks like alot of bad sheds and not fed too well :(

I would just take it to rescue that little guy :(

I hate seeing this stuff. Us Humans really can be an evil species...

Another reason I avoid Craigslist like the plague. :(

Oh gosh, that poor thing :( It makes me so upset how some people can neglect a living animal in their care. I don't understand why people have animals only to not care for even their basic needs.

Well here's an update i told him i would not trade with him and that his snake don't look to healthy (tried to say stuff nice to him so he still talks to me and try and work out a deal to maybe get snake) well it didn't work out to well because he stopped emailing me really quick.I've done research to find out who he was which was difficult because i can't find anything about him really as he dont have a fb or anything.

And also craigslist isn't all that bad i've got some great snakes from craigslist i actually just got a female bumblebee from craigslist and is a great eater 3 days after i got her she ate for me and she just ate for me again yesterday and i got her on the 6th.
But this is the worst i've seen from craigslist and he didn't post it on craigslist i posted a want ad for a female bp and he emailed me so all i really have is his email and thats it

If you could provide any contact information I would contact him confidentially and try to help this poor snake. Its in rough shape without doubt. If I can reach out let me. Thanks for trying to help him!
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I would love to just pay that guy money so that I can save that animal and put him in a better home with my collection :) poor little guy

So update again.He actually just emailed me back and said "that's actually a picture from when i first adopted him. He actually eats fine and is healthy"..Well if your trying to trade a snake for another animal why would you send a old picture i call bs. I asked for a recent picture so we will see what he says to that, i bet he says his camera is broken or something stupid lol.

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So update again.He actually just emailed me back and said "that's actually a picture from when i first adopted him. He actually eats fine and is healthy"..Well if your trying to trade a snake for another animal why would you send a old picture i call bs. I asked for a recent picture so we will see what he says to that, i bet he says his camera is broken or something stupid lol.

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I call shenanigans, if you have a healthy animal why show one near death.

Thats hard to claim these days, every phone has a camera pretty much.


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Yeah exactly but he's probably going to come up with a dumb lie because we all know that's a recent picture no matter what he say's there's no way you would send that picture if it is truely old to trade for another animal you would send a recent picture of it looking healthy.