What is this ??? Not quite normal!

Picked this guy up from a shop. From what i know he has bin there for 6 years or so. He has green eyes, a blushed out head and a normal belly. He dos not look quite normal. Any Ideas? ??????

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He's a very nice normal. :)

I almost see like a Spotnose headstamp there?? Might be worthwhile getting a Spotnose girl and seeing if any Powerballs come out from them.

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Originally Posted by MisterKyte

I almost see like a Spotnose headstamp there?? Might be worthwhile getting a Spotnose girl and seeing if any Powerballs come out from them.

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Interesting head patterns, but I've seen handfuls of nromals with the same or similar markings. Hard to tell with the angles of the photos, but doesn't look anything like a spotnoes pattern down the back to me.

Looks like a normal to me :)

Spotnose generally has very deep blacks, I see blushing on the back of this snake, although the blushed head is there, I don't really see the 'hoof print' head stamp of a Spotnose. Just a normal in my opinion.

Yea, he has alot of blushing. I have never seen a normal with the green eyes or the blushed out head like that so i bought him. I didn't spend much so im not out of any real $$. I figured maybe i was onto something, maybe not.

Never really know till you breed him. :P

Looks normal to me. If it was a female i'd dink with it to see what pops out. As a male, nice pet!

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Originally Posted by coolballsdave

Looks normal to me. If it was a female i'd dink with it to see what pops out. As a male, nice pet!

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If its a male, why does it have to be a pet? Why can't someone dink with a male? That makes no sence.

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Originally Posted by TessadasExotics

If its a male, why does it have to be a pet? Why can't someone dink with a male? That makes no sence.

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You can dink with a male. However, I personally wouldn't do it. Females are valuable (for their eggs) and putting a snake with her that may prove out as a normal may end up resulting in lost profit. It's a gamble, it could pay off or cost you to do this. But there is a larger chance that you will end up with a clutch of normal babies. I wish you luck either way.

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All dinking is a gamble. They are side projects. Dinking is always a gamble. What is the difference between breeding a "normal" male to a female pastel and breeding a pastel male to a "normal" female? Absolutely nothing! It is silly to tell someone that it is a bigger gamble or a loss of profit to dink with a male. All DINKING is the same. It will be the same result either way you dink. :confusd:

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All dinking is a gamble. They are side projects. Dinking is always a gamble. What is the difference between breeding a "normal" male to a female pastel and breeding a pastel male to a "normal" female? Absolutely nothing! It is silly to tell someone that it is a bigger gamble or a loss of profit to dink with a male. All DINKING is the same. It will be the same result either way you dink. :confusd:

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I meant no offense in my original post, or my last one. Trust me, I have plenty of "side projects". I just prefer to handle my operations and side projects in the most profitable manner. Think about it a little harder and maybe you will understand why it is more expensive to prove out a male. Regardless, I don't care how people dink with their balls :P. Whatever makes them happy.

It is more expensive to prove out a male........but if the male proves......you've got a way more expensive snake :D If you have a female dinker and SHE proves, you have to wait another year to breed her and she can only throw you one clutch (and you HOPE she throws you a good, viable, big clutch with good odds) but if your MALE proves, you breed that sucker to every lady in the house! ;)

One pro to having a male dinker is you can breed him quicker! at 400g-500g he's ready to go! I have a couple female dinkers and it'll be another YEAR or TWO before they are ready to go *impatient*.

But the con to have a male dinker is that you have to use a female.....a female that could be used to produce a nice clutch from an already proven out male.

MY advice (for what it's worth) is to breed to a single gene or super female. (super female is of course the most expensive route, but then #1 you know you don't miss on the possible gene and #2 you don't blow the clutch) :gj:

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I meant no offense in my original post, or my last one. Trust me, I have plenty of "side projects". I just prefer to handle my operations and side projects in the most profitable manner. Think about it a little harder and maybe you will understand why it is more expensive to prove out a male. Regardless, I don't care how people dink with their balls :P. Whatever makes them happy.

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No offense was taken, but your theory is flawed. It matters not if your dinker is a male or a female. By your logic it would be a waste either way. Whether your dinker is a male or a female you have to breed it to something. If you breed it to a normal then yes you may just get normals. If you breed it to a morph, then you will at least get something other than normals.

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No offense was taken, but your theory is flawed. It matters not if your dinker is a male or a female. By your logic it would be a waste either way. Whether your dinker is a male or a female you have to breed it to something. If you breed it to a normal then yes you may just get normals. If you breed it to a morph, then you will at least get something other than normals.

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I agree, with all exept the "flawed logic" part. To prove out a gene, breeding to a normal yields much less confusing results.

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I am seeing a very nice normal, but like others stated you wont know until you breed.