Double vivarium!

I have a double viv 3ft one ontop of the other using a single thermostat, the top one has the sensor and is perfect temps but the bottom isn't getting as hot any help?

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Originally Posted by Harry wheatley

I have a double viv 3ft one ontop of the other using a single thermostat, the top one has the sensor and is perfect temps but the bottom isn't getting as hot any help?

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First off, with one of top of the other and heat rising, that's natural for the top one to be warmer. How far off is the bottom one? Temps would be great to see if it's a major issue or a minor one. Also, is it heat tape? Cable? Where is the sensor located?

The temps of the top viv are 32.2 c and 27.5 c and the bottom ones are 30.3 c and 24.9c

The temps of the top viv are 32.2 c and 27.5 c and the bottom ones are 30.3 c and 24.9c also the sensor for the pulse thermostat is in the top viv middle and ceramic 75w

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The temps of the top viv are 32.2 c and 27.5 c and the bottom ones are 30.3 c and 24.9c also the sensor for the pulse thermostat is in the top viv middle and ceramic 75w

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90.0/81.5 and 86.5/76.8 in Fahrenheit then. Does it have the ceramic heat emitter on top of a screened top or how is it positioned? If you have pics, that would help. What are the viv's made out of? Sounds like a good chunk of the heat is going up from those numbers.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/02/03/zebe8e3u.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/02/03/je9apa9e.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/02/03/hepasaby.jpg the bottom viv has no snake in till mid next week that's why it's empty 😊

Alright. Looks to be made out of particleboard/wood so it shouldn't loose heat that much. What are you measuring temps with? I see the little thermometer/hygrometer in the center there on the top but those are far from accurate unfortunately. Something like a little Accurite digital would work great and I use them in my tubs because it lets me know highs/lows.

http://www.amazon.com/Chaney-Instrum...te+thermometer

Also, you might try setting up the bottom the way you plan on doing so for the next snake. All of the stuff inside will help hold heat and with that heat emitter right over the hide, it will create a 'hotbox' effect so if you're measuring the temp inside that, it will be much warmer than the surrounding area. I have used that exact hide for corns with a light over it and you'd be amazed at the difference between inside and outside of that.

That's just on the inside I have a digital on each side one with a more accurate hydrometer on the cool side I shall put the thermomiter in the hide and see what the readings are, would a reflective cealing in the bottom
Viv work like tinfoil?

Oh my good lord I moved it about 2 minutes ago and it's already on 41.4c!

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Oh my good lord I moved it about 2 minutes ago and it's already on 41.4c!

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LOL! Yeah, I figured out how warm they get when my normally tolerant corns were giving me evil looks and laying outside their hide. This is why the rest of my guys are on belly heat but I'm not sure how you would go about doing that on that viv. The plastic holds heat very well and if your thermostat probe is reading air temp, it will always be lower than what your snake is getting and whatever that emitter is directly over will always be hotter. Do you have the stuff to set up the bottom viv like you're going to? Think about how much heat the stuff in the top tank retains and that will keep it warmer than an empty viv.

As for the foil idea, I'm not sure. There are ways to insulate the viv if it is indeed losing that much heat but until you set it up identical to the top, it will be hard to tell whether or not you need more insulation or if it's just the cage setup.

I haven't as of yet getting that when I pick my pastel up! Ill have a play around see what works the best tomorrow, it's getting rather quite annoying now and I'm off to make some penny's to pay for it all!

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I haven't as of yet getting that when I pick my pastel up! Ill have a play around see what works the best tomorrow, it's getting rather quite annoying now and I'm off to make some penny's to pay for it all!

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Don't let it frustrate you. Just keep adjusting one thing at a time and then wait to see how that affects the temp. I'm assuming you have a snake in the top. How does he/she act? Does she use the warm side hide even though it's so hot?

She's only gone in today and been in the cool side since she's been in so ill have to observe her some more to figure out what's best

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She's only gone in today and been in the cool side since she's been in so ill have to observe her some more to figure out what's best

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Sounds like it's probably just too hot for her but she may also be one of those that prefers the cooler side. I'd move the hide a bit so it's not directly under the heat emitter and go from there. That way it's not getting super hot.

Did that just before I left I don't want a £250 cooked snake when I get home!