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DInker or more ?
this is my male het pied but i think he is more than that think he is a woma ? he has super high gold crazy flames perfect banding , no alien heads and a very blushed out head and body over all
http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/w...ps38f4ec78.jpg
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DInker or more ?
Well he's not a woma but he is super cool!
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I'm a newb but there's no way that's a normal..
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You should try to take some better shots at some point. Like a picture of his belly, back, and both sides. That pattern looks definitely interesting though.
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DInker or more ?
Thats a het pied for sure. Het Pieds tend to have a very different pattern than just a "normal".
Kevin Mccurley has said many times that he thinks of the "het pied" gene as "almost" a pattern mutation on its own. Especially when mixed with the right stuff. (And of course we never know what that "right stuff" ever is)
My het pied has the same look, on the lower half of her body only though. It could definitly be more than a "Normal" just wanted to share that with you in case you had never heard it before. I was kinda hopeful too when ifirst picked up my girl. Now im content with knowing shes just a cool looking Het.
Hope thathelps a little
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That changes everything I thought I already learned.. What happened to "het" meaning it had one of the two genes to be visible.. If het pieds have their own look wouldn't a visual pied bu a super version making the pied gene a co Dom ?
Maybe I'm way off base here but maybe someone could clarify this further
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Re: DInker or more ?
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Originally Posted by NormanSnake
maybe an enchi?
Again I'm a newb but I thought based on the pattern maybe enchi but I thought enchi made it a brighter yellow/gold
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DInker or more ?
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Originally Posted by BoostedMX3
That changes everything I thought I already learned.. What happened to "het" meaning it had one of the two genes to be visible.. If het pieds have their own look wouldn't a visual pied bu a super version making the pied gene a co Dom ?
Maybe I'm way off base here but maybe someone could clarify this further
Some people think that het pieds influence patterns and have markers that you can see. The het pied markers aren't 100% accurate but they have helped people prove out some dinkers that way. You are correct about "if you can tell its a het pied then it should be a co-Dom morph" but its super subtle that its easily missed. Also I don't know if its been proven 100% but all the facts that I have read point to leopards being a new line of co-Dom het pied.
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Followed u untill the leapords part.. Havnt even heard of that morph yet.. Jeeze there is so many haha
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Re: DInker or more ?
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Originally Posted by BoostedMX3
Followed u untill the leapords part.. Havnt even heard of that morph yet.. Jeeze there is so many haha
Leopards are a really cool morph! Kind of new but already proving out to have so much potential. They kind of look like if you took just the Pied pattern but removed all the white so it's no surprise that there are a couple who make produce a Co-Dom form of Piebald, not to mention that I believe they originated from the Piebald morph originally?
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I'm starting to think the whole morph this is bs.. Lets just call them all AWESOME lol
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Re: DInker or more ?
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I'm starting to think the whole morph this is bs.. Lets just call them all AWESOME lol
That's the crazy thing about balls. Too many morphs and not enough of the snakes in general. (Considering they lay wee little clutches of like, 4 eggs):psychotic
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Is no one else seeing a slightly banded Yellowbelly? Can we get a belly pic of him?
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Re: DInker or more ?
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Originally Posted by pythonminion
That's the crazy thing about balls. Too many morphs and not enough of the snakes in general. (Considering they lay wee little clutches of like, 4 eggs):psychotic
Eh, people generally get a bit of a better yield than that. I hear six as the universal average most often.
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DInker or more ?
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Originally Posted by Griffith
Is no one else seeing a slightly banded Yellowbelly? Can we get a belly pic of him?
My initial thought as well but I have next to no personal experience with yellowbelly.
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Re: DInker or more ?
from the stomach I see het pied. I know Kevin from nerd has a video somewhere about the het pied gene and what it does to the patterns of some of his snakes. You usually see a cleaner nicely faded animal. I have a double het albino pied that looks very similar.
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Re: DInker or more ?
If you think there is more there than just the Het pied there is only 1 way to find out. Breed it out.
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Re: DInker or more ?
I have a female that resembles your snake; she is a normal, not het for anything. I think your het pied is just a nicely banded ball and not necessarily anything genetic.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ton/F08No3.jpg
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I still think it's a Yellow Belly. It looks extremely similar to TJ's banded normal, with the addition of the flames and blushing...and while the belly pictures aren't in the best light the sides of the belly pattern also point to Yellow Belly....
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I am not seeing any yellow belly; maybe I am just used to obvious yellow belly traits, but I don't see any classic yellow belly 'flames' or 'checkering'.
This page shows what I consider to be an average example of yellowbelly: http://www.myballpython.com/morphs/yellowbelly.html
What I would expect to see is something more along the lines of this snake:
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/fi...-belly/004.jpg
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DInker or more ?
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Originally Posted by Griffith
I still think it's a Yellow Belly. It looks extremely similar to TJ's banded normal, with the addition of the flames and blushing...and while the belly pictures aren't in the best light the sides of the belly pattern also point to Yellow Belly....
No way is that snake a yellow belly. Here is a yellow belly:
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/02/02/9y5ezezy.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/02/02/sa2ahuny.jpg
Couple things to note.
A) flames
B) checkering/yellowish colour on the sides of the belly
C) head splotch
The OPs snake really doesn't share these yellow belly traits. The belly is wayyy different and that should be the first sign of a YB.
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Yellow Belly's can vary alot... The op's snake has blushing, and you can see in the belly pic that it has the checkered looking sides on the belly, as well as flames...and the dorsal pic clearly shows blushing...
The snake in the OP's pic:
http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/w...ps9d791294.jpg
Sure looks alot like this banded Yellow Belly....not all YB's have nice yellow bellies...I'm just saying I have seen alot of banded YB's that look like the OPs snake...
http://www.myballpython.com/assets/i...ellowbelly.jpg
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Re: DInker or more ?
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Originally Posted by Griffith
Sure, the dorsal views of the snakes look similar.
But the belly shot of the OP's snake does not look like the belly of a YB by my standards. Like I said, I may have been spoiled having seen some really nice YBs in person, a long ones that I consider average that still show obvious flames and checkering.
http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/w...psd9fab1a4.jpg
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I do admit that the belly doesn't look as pretty as I would like on a YB, especially after seeing some pics of Jerry's (Snakesrkewl)...
I think it is the color or "glow" of the dorsal that is screaming YB at me...there is definitely something special going on.
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Re: DInker or more ?
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Originally Posted by Griffith
I do admit that the belly doesn't look as pretty as I would like on a YB, especially after seeing some pics of Jerry's (Snakesrkewl)...
I think it is the color or "glow" of the dorsal that is screaming YB at me...there is definitely something special going on.
Yeah, Jerry's line of YB is really interesting. Much darker than what I am used to seeing, but without a doubt still YB.
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