Rat color id please

Ok, so basically for my own curiosity, what are the proper color names for these guys? Here is a color example of every color I have. Some colors may be duplicated. TIA. :)

Here is Button all growing up :)
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/27/4yhanyma.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/27/7emebave.jpg

Harry, he's a sweet boy
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/27/evesutab.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/27/7emybamu.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/27/5utunyhu.jpg

Dookie, he lived up to his name. :mad:
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/27/ybu3u3a9.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/27/de4ubery.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/27/u2y3ypuh.jpg

This is Marty, she's a hoot.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/27/9a4yze9u.jpg

This is one of my favorite momma's. She is the sweetest, most gentle girl.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/27/ymaparyv.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/27/anyde5yv.jpg

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How do you get the ratties to stay still long enough to get yech great pictures!?


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Shoot quick ;)

Seriously though, they are all pretty mellow. Dookie was a pain in the butt. I'm not a very big fan of him. Also, my husband was just out of range in case they decided to wander.

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I love big whisker pictures.


Here is the site I have bookmarked with rat types and colors.
http://www.camarattery.com/colors-markings

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How do you get the ratties to stay still long enough to get yech great pictures!?


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If they are acting crazy, to get good pics use a fast shutter or switch your camera to sport or burst mode. In burst mode it keeps taking shots and you usually get some good action stills if you take pics of them wrestling.

But I agree, these shots look like you bribed them to pose for the camera. My boys are probably lazy enough to get a good picture but my ladies are nuts.

Thanks for that site. I was wondering really about my blues. It would seem I have about 3 shades of them. So I must have Russian and American. And this most recent batch of babies there are some really odd shade of blue ones, almost look like the Russian Silver.

Coleslaw, Satomi, Jerry, opinions anyone???


And they actually all held still, I didn't have to do any of that stuff with the camera. Those pictures were all just taken in auto mode. ;)
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Omggggg
Doolittle, I want them all!! Like oh my gawd!

Nice! I want Harry haha his white is perfect. Cute rats doo little!

I just sent Nikki a face book message and a link to the thread to get her in here for you.

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Thanks. I pm'd her.

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1. Blue
2. Black
3. Blue
4. Fawn
5. Blue
6. Blue
7. Agouti
8. Black
9. Black

There is several reasons for different colored blues.
One might be a russian(dark blue) and the other an American(British) blue
Being het(a carrier) for red eye dilute gene's can also lighten the coat colors, just like hets in ball pythons can and do alter the looks.

Thank you! :)

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This is what I'm seeing:

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http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/27/4yhanyma.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/27/7emebave.jpg

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First picture looks mink, but second picture looks blue, maybe Russian blue. I see what looks like heathering, so I'm leaning toward Russian blue.
Markings look like bareback with head spot.

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Black, blazed hooded or variageted (leaning toward variegated, but can't see the spine stripe well enough).

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Russian blue blazed berkshire

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fawn (red/ruby eyes) or silver fawn (pink eyes) blazed variegated.

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Looks like a blue agouti color, can't tell if it is American blue or Russian blue agouti though. marked is variegated with headspot.

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Russian Blue, berkshire or irish depending on how much white is on the belly.

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agouti hooded

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Black, looks like berkshire from the white on the side.

Thank you, that's what I was looking for. :). So does varigaited mean mottled coloring through out? So what makes them a Berkshire? Is Berkshire the coat pattern, not color?

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Thank you, that's what I was looking for. :). So does varigaited mean mottled coloring through out? So what makes them a Berkshire? Is Berkshire the coat pattern, not color?

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Yes on variegated. Basically a variegated has the hood (with or without a blaze or headspot), but instead of a stripe (broken or solid, an ideal hooded has a solid stripe) down the back, they have spotting like a dalmatian. The Berkshire is a marking: white feet, white belly, and sometimes a headspot or blaze, ideally half the tail is white but that doesn't always happen either. Irish would just have a splotch of white on the belly instead of the whole belly being white. "American Irish" is more of a circle, "English Irish" is a perfect equilateral triangle between the front legs with the point pointing at the back legs.

ETA: And the genetics for all of these markings are all related and on the H-locus. Hooded is a simple h/h, Berkshire is a H/h, where self (completely solid, no white at all) is H/H. The variegated, bareback, dalmatian, Irish, and several others are modifiers on that locus. I can't remember all of the codes used for the different genes, but I think they include (might have dominant/recessive mixed up too) h^i, H^re, and H^ro (this is the "Robert" gene, aka Essex).

variegated
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/a...e/IMG_1693.jpg

Agouti berkshire(standing up)
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/a...e/PICT9065.jpg

blue on left, blue agouti on right ... Agouti makes the blue look orangish
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/a...z/PICT2748.jpg

English (I think)
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/a...z/PICT0385.jpg

Baldie
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/a...z/PICT6352.jpg

Bareback
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/a...z/PICT4297.jpg

Self, All black no white anywhere
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/a...ckSelfRex1.jpg

Capped
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/a.../Victoria1.jpg

Sorry I'm late to the party.

This is what I see.


http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/27/4yhanyma.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/27/7emebave.jpg
Russian Blue Bareback


http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/27/evesutab.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/27/7emybamu.jpg
Black Lightning Blaze Variegated

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/27/5utunyhu.jpg
Russian Blue Blaze berkshire

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/27/ybu3u3a9.jpg
Fawn variegated

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/27/de4ubery.jpg
Russian Silver variegated

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/27/u2y3ypuh.jpg
Russian Blue (looks berkshire to me)


http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/27/9a4yze9u.jpg
Agouti hooded



http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/27/ymaparyv.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/27/anyde5yv.jpg
Black Berkshire

Thank you all so much! Now I have a clue what these cute little guys are!

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As far as I know a silver is a blue rat diluted with the pink eye gene like this ...
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/a...s/PICT3822.jpg

This is the product of blue X agouti blue, both parents carried the pink eye gene since they came from a pink eyed Siamese.

The one I wondered on the silver, is from the blue, and he came from a Siamese mom, with the red eyes.

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The one I wondered on the silver, is from the blue, and he came from a Siamese mom, with the red eyes.

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It's american blue, they are pretty silver blue colored.
The lighter it is can be an indicator of it carrying a red eye recessive gene.

I have produced a ton of American blues, it's pretty much my favorite color besides Fawn.
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/a...e/PICT3974.jpg

American blue with a sibling russian blue. I bred russian blues to American blues before I knew they were incompatible, so a lot of my rats carried both genes and made both types of blue rats in the same litters
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/a...ebluegirls.jpg

There's the Russian silver which is Russian blue+American blue. I don't know if it has another name though. And so many other names for the different shades of blue and blue/R.blue combos. It starts to get confusing!

Russian beige aka blue beige
Russian silver
silver blue
american blue
british blue
slate blue
powder blue
platinum

I know I'm forgetting some...

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There's the Russian silver which is Russian blue+American blue. I don't know if it has another name though.

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Yes. When I said I think that light blue little one is Russian Silver, I meant Russian Blue + American Blue.
Not the pink eyed dilute silver.

I don't think the rat in question is a straight American Blue. Or at least, it doesn't look like one on my computer screen. :\
It's light in color like the AB, but looks like it has heathering, which comes from the RB.
I could be totally wrong, but that's just what I see.


This is one of my American Blues:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v9...s/DSC_0613.jpg

Russian Blues:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v9...Untitled-1.jpg

I hadn't thought of that combo :)

I see heathering as well. The little one looks like it could have ticking too, but hard to tell on the computer.