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  • 01-16-2013, 05:33 PM
    Seanjackmc
    Dumb newb ???
    Sorry if this is really stupid to ask. I've been reading a lot and everyone says you need a thermostat and thermometer. I understand the difference but don't understand how you use a thermostat in conjunction with a uth. Does a uth not have a built in thermostat, do they just have high and low? It's confusing to me sorry.
  • 01-16-2013, 05:35 PM
    toyota89
    Uth only have 1 setting and can get up to around 115 degrees. Without a tstat you could start a fire.

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  • 01-16-2013, 05:37 PM
    Rob
    The uth is what is actually doing the heating
    The thermometer will tell you what the temp is
    The thermostat is what regulates the temp. Ie you want the temp at 80? Set the thermostat at 80 and it will be.
  • 01-16-2013, 05:42 PM
    DooLittle
    Heat mat temps are controlled by the thermostat. Otherwise heat mat is on full blast, no control over temps, ie. How hot it gets.

    Thermometer reads what your temps are, not controls them.


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  • 01-16-2013, 05:43 PM
    Seanjackmc
    So the thermostat will turn the uth on and off as it regulates the set temp? On a new tank I would place the thermostat between the tank and the uth or does the thermostat go inside the tank under the substrate?
    Do all uth's have a location to plug in the thermostat?
    thanks for the help guys
    stm
  • 01-16-2013, 05:43 PM
    Rob
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DrDooLittle View Post
    , ie

    Copy cat :p
  • 01-16-2013, 05:47 PM
    DooLittle
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Rob View Post
    Copy cat :p

    Lol, didn't even notice till you pointed that out...:p

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  • 01-16-2013, 05:49 PM
    Rob
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Seanjackmc View Post
    So the thermostat will turn the uth on and off as it regulates the set temp? On a new tank I would place the thermostat between the tank and the uth or does the thermostat go inside the tank under the substrate?
    Do all uth's have a location to plug in the thermostat?
    thanks for the help guys
    stm

    Whatever you do do not put the uth in the tank. Always outside, wouldn't want to burn your buddy:)
    There are a lot of different thermostats out there. But generally the thermostat will have a probe, me personally have my probe directly on my heat tape outside of the tubs.
  • 01-16-2013, 06:25 PM
    lX V1P3R Xl
    I have my thermostat probe on the outside of the tank in between the UTH and the bottom of the tank. Since the probe doesn't allow all of the UTH to stick to the bottom of the tank, I also put some strong tape around the UTH to help keep it in place. Then all you do is plug your UTH into the thermostat, plug the thermostat into the wall or other electrical socket, set your temps, and you're good to go!
  • 01-16-2013, 06:34 PM
    The Serpent Merchant
    Heres how it works, the UTH plugs into the thermostat and then the thermostat plugs into the wall. The thermostat uses a temperature probe to read what the temperature of the UTH is then adjust the amount of power is going to the UTH.

    Here are some graphical examples:

    http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/...psf3fae847.jpg

    UTH on one of my cages:

    http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/...s/8c8a7fb7.jpg

    UTH's plugged into my thermostat:

    http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/...ps782bb4a9.jpg

    http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/...t/IMG_0342.jpg

    This picture shows the white UTH power cord and the black thermostat probe cord

    http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/...s/IMG_0445.jpg

    Thermostat probe

    http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/...ps443ab34b.jpg
  • 01-16-2013, 07:06 PM
    Rob
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by The Serpent Merchant View Post

    It doesn't get anymore plain and simple then that lol
  • 01-16-2013, 09:11 PM
    BoostedMX3
    Ya that's a good pic.. A infrared laser thermometer is handy as well to check your hot spot temp as the uth won't help ur ambient temp much at all.. And unless u have a thermometer with a probe all ur going to get is ambient..

    My set up I'm trying to get dialed in by Sunday uses 2 stick on thermometers for ambient hot/cold side a hygrometer for humidity and the herpstat + with the probe between the tank and uth
  • 01-16-2013, 11:03 PM
    Seanjackmc
    Ok I got it now. I had no idea the uth plugged into the thermostat. Thanks for the help everyone. So basically ill put my uth on one side of the tank where my warm hide is and have another hide on the cool side. The warm side will be around 95 degrees and the cool should be around 82-85. For the ambient temp I can use an over head heater?
    Thanks again everyone
    stm
  • 01-16-2013, 11:14 PM
    The Serpent Merchant
    Re: Dumb newb ???
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Seanjackmc View Post
    Ok I got it now. I had no idea the uth plugged into the thermostat. Thanks for the help everyone. So basically ill put my uth on one side of the tank where my warm hide is and have another hide on the cool side. The warm side will be around 95 degrees and the cool should be around 82-85. For the ambient temp I can use an over head heater?
    Thanks again everyone
    stm

    95 is a little high. I'd shot for 90.

    Otherwise sounds good. to heat the air in a tank an infrared heat lamp or ceramic heat emitter are good choices. I suggest that you use one of them in conjunction with a lamp dimmer to dial in the right air temperature.
  • 01-16-2013, 11:20 PM
    Seanjackmc
    Thanks Arron, makes perfect sense with the dimmer. I re read the care sheet and see my temps were a bit high.
    so much to learn!
    stm
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