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Skinny bearded dragon?

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  • 01-11-2013, 09:50 PM
    Samantha
    Skinny bearded dragon?
    My boyfriend and I recently got 2 baby bearded dragons, and the one is growing alot while the other is still pretty skinny. length wise they are only about 1in apart but but the one just doesnt seem to be gaining any weight. They both eat about 3 times a day, 4-5 dusted crickets each time. I would just like to know if this is normal, he is super active and friendly.

    Pimp is about 7 1/2in With tail and without 3 1/2in
    https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.n...40923673_n.jpg

    and Foghorn is6 1/2in With tail , without 2 3/4in

    https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.n...92304024_n.jpg
  • 01-11-2013, 09:51 PM
    Quantum Constrictors
    one main question.

    Are they living together?
  • 01-11-2013, 09:54 PM
    Samantha
    yes they are, but the bigger one doesnt seem to be bulling him, he seems to even let the smaller one eat 1st
  • 01-11-2013, 10:03 PM
    PitOnTheProwl
    Living together isn't as big of a problem as feeding together.
    We fed ours separately till they got bigger.
    Also we fed and still feed a ton of crickets to them.

    You do have a UVB on them, right?
  • 01-11-2013, 10:08 PM
    Samantha
    I sure do, its pretty old tho... should i be replacing it often?
  • 01-11-2013, 10:12 PM
    I-KandyReptiles
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Samantha View Post
    I sure do, its pretty old tho... should i be replacing it often?

    Dont quote me on this, but I'm pretty sure bulbs should be replaced every 6 montha
  • 01-11-2013, 10:15 PM
    Valley
    Be careful housing them together. I had 2 at one point, male and female. They were fine for about 2 months, until one morning I woke up and the female bit the makes tail off. From then on all he had was a stub. Awesome lizards though! If I had the time to properly maintain them, I'd love another.
  • 01-11-2013, 10:15 PM
    PitOnTheProwl
    Re: Skinny bearded dragon?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bobbafett View Post
    Dont quote me on this, but I'm pretty sure bulbs should be replaced every 6 montha

    Most are yearly;)
  • 01-11-2013, 10:16 PM
    Samantha
    i will deffinelty go and replace it, as i used to use that bulb for another pet. Ive also been reading that worms could stunt his growth, is there any way of knowing without taking him to the vet?
  • 01-11-2013, 10:17 PM
    Valley
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bobbafett View Post
    Dont quote me on this, but I'm pretty sure bulbs should be replaced every 6 montha

    I had a bulb (forgot what it was called but I can get you the name if you'd like next time I go to the shop for a rat) that had a year warrantee on it. Manufacture would replace it if it went out within that year (as long as they didn't see any damage). So that really just depends on the bulb your using.
  • 01-11-2013, 10:19 PM
    Valley
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Samantha View Post
    i will deffinelty go and replace it, as i used to use that bulb for another pet. Ive also been reading that worms could stunt his growth, is there any way of knowing without taking him to the vet?

    I used to feed mine worms, and never had that issue. I actually had to limit them on the worms because they were getting fat. I fed mine a mixture of crickets and worms. Once of size a pinky on rare occasion.
  • 01-11-2013, 10:19 PM
    Samantha
    ive most likely had the bulb for over a year, i just didnt think it was the bulb as my one guy is growing so fast
  • 01-11-2013, 10:20 PM
    Samantha
    they eat meal worms, but im scared of pinworms... but i dont know how to tell or even if i woul dbe able to tell
  • 01-11-2013, 10:54 PM
    Quantum Constrictors
    Dubia cockroaches.

    Feed them those and watch them pack on the grams!
  • 01-11-2013, 10:56 PM
    I-KandyReptiles
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl View Post
    Most are yearly;)

    Lol. I was kinda close!
    Not into lizards :p
  • 01-11-2013, 10:58 PM
    PitOnTheProwl
    Re: Skinny bearded dragon?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Valley View Post
    I had a bulb (forgot what it was called but I can get you the name if you'd like next time I go to the shop for a rat) that had a year warrantee on it. Manufacture would replace it if it went out within that year (as long as they didn't see any damage). So that really just depends on the bulb your using.

    No, there is not a warranty for a weak UVB light LOL. They should be replaced annually. It is not the same as the light going out.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Wax worms are great but really high in fat.:gj:
  • 01-11-2013, 11:05 PM
    PitOnTheProwl
    Re: Skinny bearded dragon?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bobbafett View Post
    Lol. I was kinda close!
    Not into lizards :p

    Dragons have a whole different "attitude" to them, kind of like a cat;)
  • 01-11-2013, 11:32 PM
    Samantha
    I got a scale to weigh way them on over the next couple of weeks, and im going to go out tomorrow and get a new bulb and try some wax worms

    foghorn weighs 11.28g
    pimp weighs 25.5g
  • 01-11-2013, 11:57 PM
    Valley
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl View Post
    No, there is not a warranty for a weak UVB light LOL. They should be replaced annually. It is not the same as the light going out.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Wax worms are great but really high in fat.:gj:

    x2 didn't see the yup of bulb. I spent alittle extra ($50-60 can't remember exact amount) for my bulb, but lasted a long time.

    Wax worms are more of a treat, but feed too many they do get fat. Once mine got of size they loved super worms, but I didn't give them too many of those either. Their main diet was crickets, just gave them worms ever once in a while and a pinky maybe once a month or every other month.
  • 01-12-2013, 01:12 AM
    Samantha
    my boyfriend does like to give meal worms every other day, but only the bigger one eats them right now, they smaller one likes his veggies more. could be the reason for the size differance?:confusd:
  • 01-12-2013, 01:24 AM
    Valley
    O yeah!

    Also the smaller might just feel intimidated and not wanting to push the boundaries.

    http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/12/ydyte3a3.jpg

    http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/12/e7apate7.jpg

    But like I said just watch out with the co-habitation. One could bite the other. This guys tail never did grow back, but he did recover after the incident and was a healthy beardie with a stub.
  • 01-12-2013, 01:25 AM
    Foschi Exotic Serpents
    "Lighting – bearded dragons needs both UVA and UVB rays, which help with the synthesis of vitamin D3. This helps with the calcium metabolize, which promotes the healthy growth of bones."

    " It is an absolute MUST that the UV bulbs are replaced every 6 months, as they stop producing UV rays long before they actually burn out."

    http://pogonareptilia.m.webs.com/sit...etwork=fw#2123

    If you do some searching around you'll se that nearly every care site AND UVA/UVB manufacturing or selling page states that these bulbs greatly diminish the amount of UVB being put out after 6 months. 6-10 months is the average I'm seeing.


    As for the skinny dragon, housing two babies together, and especially feeding 2 together can cause a lot of stress and dominance issues. Especially if they both turn out to be males. Unless they are both females, you'll never be able to keep them together long term without problems. Dragons are not communal.

    They should fed insects that are no larger than the space between their eyes (on top on their head), and as many as they can possibly eat in 15 minutes, 2-3 times a day.

    For the average baby dragon this usually means anywhere from 20-40 crickets per day. Most dragons are underfed as babies.

    Their greens should be offered as their first meal of the day. A small amount of finely cut up and good tasting greens such as spring mix to get the babies eating some. Shredded carrots and some squash also taste great. As they get a little bigger they will eat more greens and hopefully will eat the good stuff if you sneak it in there. Like mustard greens, turnip greens, kale, etc. these are much higher in nutrients.

    Once they are adults they should be eating a big bowl of greens and very few insects but as babies they need a LOT of insects to grow.
  • 01-25-2013, 10:29 PM
    Samantha
    2 weeks later

    Foghorn - 17.2
    Pimp - 47.5
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