Halloween Phase ATB...

Hey all I was reading one of the older posts here in this forum and it appears you were talking about the Halloween Phase ATB but didn't have a pic well it just so happens that thats what I'm trying to get the Pet Store to give me as the one there is almost dead if not by now. Poor little guy scooped him up in my hands and he was to weak to even bite at me. With any luck I'll get him as my rescue and I've been doing tons of research on them so far cause I want this guy to excel. If anyone can give me some personal experience points that would be really helpful. But anyways heres the Pic of the Halloween Phase ATB.

https://ball-pythons.net/modules/cop...normal_ATB.jpg

They are pretty little snakes. I don't know anything about them, though. Good luck. I'm sure you'll keep us updated on whether or not you get it. :)

David had one, but has left the forum. I'm sure if you do a search you'll find plenty of info. Good luck on rescuing it!

They're cute skinny lil' dudes. What do you keep total?

I've kept an ATB before, but I'm no expert.

Keep his enclosure humid. About 65%-70% should do nicely. I kept the temps at about 76F-84F degrees with no night time drop. Rather than a horizontal perch such as those that you would see an emerald tree boa perching on, ATB's need to be supported on 3 points of their body, so keep that in mind when finding or making its perch. If you find it rarely perching, it probably doesn't like it, and it needs to be changed. ATB's do spend a lot of time on the floor of their cage, but not the whole time, so watch for that.

I had an adult male (about 5 feet long) and I fed him every 2 weeks, he never ate before that. Is that one a baby? If so, I would try feeding it every 5-7 days or so.

Good luck, they are great little snakes, and I hope he comes around for you! If you have other questions, just ask, I can try to help. Check out this link, it helped me out a lot when I first got my ATB: http://www.corallus.com/urbanjungles/ammycare.html Also, check out this link on humidity: http://www.corallus.com/urbanjungles/humidity.html

Jennifer

Wow thanks alot for the Info Jen thats great stuff he's a very picky eater and will only eat frogs how weird LOL. I already shed him at the store casue they just left him and then tried to feed him a pinky wouldn't take it so then I scented it with lizard pee scent or something like that. Didn't work either but that could be due to the stress as hes a very stressed out animal. I'll keep you updated on whats happening. Thanks for the support all. And for the Godfather or whoever else is interested heres the links to my herps.
http://www.ball-pythons.net/PNphpBB2...ic-t-2607.html <---BP Link
http://www.ball-pythons.net/PNphpBB2...ic-t-2611.html <---BCI Link
Enjoy.

Cute lil guy! I hope he does better for you.....I am the former resident ATB "expert" lol.....I have 4 of them at the moment. In fact, thats my female in your avatar, lol.

Hey man thats one sweet lookin' ATB. I actually am happy you came back cause there are things i want to know about them through personal experience and you were the one recommened to talk to by the famous Marla. If you've got msn messenger I'd be interested in chating to you. You can add me soul_of_fire_in_death@hotmail.com. Look forward to talking to you.

Oh and one more thing thats not the pic of the guy I'm trying to rescue hopefully i'll have a pic of him tonight that way you guys can see what kinda bad shape hes in. Dehydrated like no tomorrow, Stressed, incomplete sheds left on him. I couldn't get them all the last time I was in. Just a question but how far is to far in obtaining this rescue cause I really don't wanna see this guy die and I'll go to the point of just walking outta the store with him if it comes to it. Anybody think thats going to far???

I don't have MSN, but I have AIM...my name is Beardonicus on there.

I would be leery of "rescue" ATBs....its a gimme that its a WC snake probably loaded with internal parasites as well....it would be tough and you'd likely spend a bunch of $ on vet bills.....I know from personal experience that WC ATBs are a pain in the butt, lol. I know you wanna help the poor snake, but think about it this way....if you buy it, the store will only replace it with another, continuing the viscious circle. Try and find a CBB specimen, you'd have a much better snake and a much better experience.

Thats the thing i'm not paying for a pet store rescue at all thats stupid its either free or taken cause i've not got the money to be buying other snakes, nor including vet bills but i wanna do anything possible to help the poor little guy out within my power which is better than nothin' at all which is what the pet store is giving it at least in my home I'll keep the temps right, it'll be less stressed cause i'll put it in a low flow area plus i'll wrap a blanket around the tank see no evil there is no evil kinda dealy, feed it on a regular secdual unlike whenever the department has funds to feed the animals. Just over all try and get it back to health and make it comfortable. I wasn't even think about the possibility of it having internal parasites. Thanks for the update though.

If you do decide to take this project on, be sure to quarantine the snake away from your current animals....you don't want to possibly spread any disease or illness to your established collection.

There is a 90% possibility that the snake has internal parasites which WILL most definitely require veterinary attention or the snake will suffer greatly. Take a fecal sample to a herp-qualified vet and get it tested to see if medication is needed to de-parasitize the snake.

Alright thanks alot for the warnings David I'll keep in touch through PM'ing.

Andrew, it would definitely be going to far to steal the snake. No matter what kind of shape it's in, no snake (whether healthy or at death's door) is worth you going to jail.

If you want to "make a statement" to the people who own the snake when they don't just give it to you for free...then call in whatever authorities you can think of. We're always quick to assume that our local chapters of SPCA only care about cats and dogs, but there are many many exceptions to that. Also, many areas have actual reptile rescue organizations that might get involved and help apply pressure to get the animal into a more suited environment. Call the police and report animal cruelty...or at least tell the store manager that you intend to. And the BBB, and whatever other agencies might oversee pet store management.

And keep in mind what David says....if you want to help this animal as badly as you say you do, then it WILL require medical attention. If that can't be provided, then it may be better to put the poor thing to sleep than to force it to continue to live as such a sickly little thing.

Hey guys just to update you guys when i got there it was lying dead on its side worse part was they didn't even know till i showed up and checked on it. Its a sad lose but hey what can ya do thats just life. I was upset and went off on them big time but they just srugged like they always do.

Well, I just wrote a whole paragraph of things you can do in, in my last post. You plan on following up on it? Let us know!

Hey Judy I thought to call the cops in to report it but the snake was dead they threw it out somewhere and I've got nothing else to go on cause all the other animals seem to at least be doing fne in my opinion they all look healthy and are active not to mention alert when the tank is opened. So basically I don't wanna waste that option until I know they'll be able to have a through report done.

That sucks that the snake died, and even moreso that the store doesn't care. I'd picket the store if I lived close.

Ya they were like oh that sucks put it in a bag in the freezer and then they were like we'll get a new one from the breeder. That made me mad in itself. Oh well thats just life the best i can do is just accept it and keep going to the store and doing what i can while i'm there.

Wow It might be kinda late for me responding to this post but I read the whole thing... What a sad story... :[