ID help - Fire?

http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3b531b17.jpg

I was given this guy for free and was told he was a Fire. He has the dot on his head, he has the "pastel" eyes, and is slightly bright but my thought is he's a normal. Thoughts?



Emeraldtail

Looks like a very bright norm to me, but pretty none the less!!!


Ball Pythons
0.3 Normals (Coilette, Athena and Mary Jane)
1.0 Pastel (De Sol)
1.0 Spider (Zeus)
1.0 Mojave (Prometheus)

Boa Constrictors
0.1 Brazilian Rainbow Boa (Stella)
0.1 BCI (Kiyoko)
0.1 Dumerils Boa (Gloria)

Yea, hard to tell. It does have a light look to it. But it's not screaming fire. Watch it, if it gets lighter and lighter with every shed, then it is probably fire. Only way to really know for sure is to breed it :)

Can you post a few more pic of him? Im seeing normal right now...

I can see fire in that one, but I can see why others are saying normal. More pics as well as belly shots could possibly help, but as was said before, you'd have to breed it out to be 100% sure.

I'm also seeing a normal. And fires have black eyes.

Can we get a clear photo of the head?

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http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/...ps9e289c0e.jpg

This is the best pic i can do, he's a little wiggle worm! lol Also, he's got a "clear patch" in the middle of his head, not sure about it. For now I've been leaving it be, it has been getting smaller the past two sheds.

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Originally Posted by Zombie

Yea, hard to tell. It does have a light look to it. But it's not screaming fire. Watch it, if it gets lighter and lighter with every shed, then it is probably fire. Only way to really know for sure is to breed it :)

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I don't see Fire in that guy...

He is really light for a normal, but it's hard to say. Do you have a belly pic yet?

this is my fire and not the greatest example but a good one none the less
http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/...psd8928182.jpg

I'm not sure what it is, but if it's a normal, I've never seen one that bright :) very pretty regardless :)

I am seeing a really lovely bright normal.

If that were a fire, and I don't think it is, it's certainly not one I would want unless it was strictly a pet. It does not have the look you'd breed and pass on to it's offspring.

Here are a couple of my own babies, for comparison.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...r10-female.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...umber8-boy.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps4afb4ec4.jpg

See the difference? No one would mistake one of my babies for a normal.

THAT being said, I do see a lot of potential in that little one, and you said you got it for free. Even as a normal, that baby has a lot to offer. For example, if the baby is a girl, grow her up and breed a good fire to her and make her babies even better than mine. Or put a lesser to her and grab your sunglasses.

If it's a boy, that is not necessarily a bad thing. Sure normal boys are a dime a dozen, but he could still bring a lot to the breeding game. I could see using him to enhance a number of genes, even double gene females. Take mojave for example, or even better a jigsaw. I would even put him to a kingpin, or even just a pinstripe to see how he brightens it up.

So, even though the baby is almost surely not a fire, he could still be a good animal to have. I just thought of something, that baby might just be a fire sibling. The normals from my fire clutch are much brighter than the average normal, so it's entirely possible it came from a fire clutch, hence why the person thought it was a fire.

Gale

Thanks for the help guys =)