What would you do?

So I've come across this pastel female, and I'm thinking about getting her. I plan on breeding her in the future with my fire male. She's being sold for 100. What would you do? [IMG]http://i788.photobucket.com/albums/y...s0f9049d2.jpeg[/IMG]
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Probably pass on that one.

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Originally Posted by Mike41793

Probably pass on that one.

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X2, I agree! She is already browning, will be a poor pastel for sure.

Look, ALL Pastels brown out. It's a fact. That is a normal looking pastel. If it's a female it is worth $100. If you like it then get it. Anyone who thinks they are going to find a normal pastel that isn't going to brown out is going to be very unhappy when their pastel is older and at 2kg.

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Originally Posted by TessadasExotics

Look, ALL Pastels brown out. It's a fact. That is a normal looking pastel. If it's a female it is worth $100. If you like it then get it. Anyone who thinks they are going to find a normal pastel that isn't going to brown out is going to be very unhappy when their pastel is older and at 2kg.

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agree

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Originally Posted by TessadasExotics

Look, ALL Pastels brown out. It's a fact. That is a normal looking pastel. If it's a female it is worth $100. If you like it then get it. Anyone who thinks they are going to find a normal pastel that isn't going to brown out is going to be very unhappy when their pastel is older and at 2kg.

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I'm not saying that pastels don't brown out. I am saying that pastel, at her young age, is already browning. Some pastels are much browner than others.

Quality plays a huge factor in my breeding. I would rather pay a couple extra dollars and get a quality pastel than a sub par pastel, as that example is.

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Originally Posted by Zombie

I'm not saying that pastels don't brown out. I am saying that pastel, at her young age, is already browning. Some pastels are much browner than others.

Quality plays a huge factor in my breeding. I would rather pay a couple extra dollars and get a quality pastel than a sub par pastel, as that example is.

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I agree with this. No one is saying pastels don't brown eventually, but there are different levels. The OP is asking for opinions. My opinion is that, to make good quality pastel combos, you need a good quality pastel. I don't think this is one.

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Originally Posted by jschwe

I agree with this. No one is saying pastels don't brown eventually, but there are different levels. The OP is asking for opinions. My opinion is that, to make good quality pastel combos, you need a good quality pastel. I don't think this is one.

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This exactly.

I would pass OP. She's pretty dirty and browned out already.
You want the best example of the morph if you want to breed. Breeding dirty looking snakes will only produce more dirty ones.

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Originally Posted by Zombie

I'm not saying that pastels don't brown out. I am saying that pastel, at her young age, is already browning. Some pastels are much browner than others.

Quality plays a huge factor in my breeding. I would rather pay a couple extra dollars and get a quality pastel than a sub par pastel, as that example is.

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I too agree with Zombie.
All pastels brown out to a degree. But starting off with a poor quality one will just get worse with age.
Tessada, if you think that pastel is fine, then thats ok. I personally think its average at best.
I like my own pastels to be cleaner. My pastels didn't have that dirty brown above the yellow at that age.



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I have to disagree that all pastels brown out.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y10..._225210_wm.jpg
Same pastel a few days before shed.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y10..._090124_wm.jpg

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Originally Posted by iCandiBallPythons

I have to disagree that all pastels brown out.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y10..._225210_wm.jpg
Same pastel a few days before shed.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y10..._090124_wm.jpg

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That thing looks like a fire :) what were the parents?

The second pic and to the right is a fire :D. The one on the left in that pic and the pic on top is a pastel. If youre asking about the pastels parents that is unknown as she is a WC import.

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Originally Posted by iCandiBallPythons

The second pic and to the right is a fire :D. The one on the left in that pic and the pic on top is a pastel. If youre asking about the pastels parents that is unknown as she is a WC import.

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Interesting (said in a creepy mr burns voice) ;)

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Originally Posted by Zombie

Interesting (said in a creepy mr burns voice) ;)

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Exactly... (said in homer's creepy burns' impression).. Doh!

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Originally Posted by h00blah

exactly... (said in homer's creepy burns' impression).. Doh!

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;)

They don't all brown out. This is a fairly nice example of a 2yo still retaining very nice color.

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...Pablo_14-1.jpg

Yes it is still a pastel. All pastels brown out. As is the one you just posted. It looks like just about any other pastel at the same age.

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Originally Posted by TessadasExotics

Yes it is still a pastel. All pastels brown out. As is the one you just posted. It looks like just about any other pastel at the same age.

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So, you're saying that all pastels are the same? That there is no such thing as a difference in quality?

There is a difference in opinion. Just about all pastels look the same when they are adults. Yes some will be a little more browned than others but for the most part when they are adults, they look very similar. Whether or not you want to call it "quality" or not is up to you. To me a low quality pastel has very little color, be it yellow or orange, and has a browning line down past the sides. Kind of a muddy all around appearance. Pastels with more blushing will tend to look a little better due to their blushing. That though, is also just opinion. Some people like banded pastels, some like blushed and others may like the classic jungle. I have seen very bright pretty baby pastels turn out to be pretty ugly as adults.

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If you are planning on breeding her down the road, I'd take extra thought as to how she looks color wise now. If you feel that she will turn out to your liking based on your observations of her now, I'd say scoop her up. You'll be paying for/feeding/cleaning it, so bottom line, it's up to your personal preference. If I were considering purchasing her, I'd have to see her in person, or photographed under a clear brighter lighting to make my personal decision.

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Originally Posted by TessadasExotics

There is a difference in opinion. Just about all pastels look the same when they are adults. Yes some will be a little more browned than others but for the most part when they are adults, they look very similar. Whether or not you want to call it "quality" or not is up to you. To me a low quality pastel has very little color, be it yellow or orange, and has a browning line down past the sides. Kind of a muddy all around appearance. Pastels with more blushing will tend to look a little better due to their blushing. That though, is also just opinion. Some people like banded pastels, some like blushed and others may like the classic jungle. I have seen very bright pretty baby pastels turn out to be pretty ugly as adults.

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For the record the female pastel I posted is an adult and is atleast a few years old and has no "brown." So no, all them do not brown out

My bad. looks pretty brown to me. Just like an adult pastel. :gj:

I ended up not getting the pastel. Felt like she wasn't for me. Maybe spending a few more dollars will better my chance of producing better offspring. I actually have my eye on a female super pastel. I will keep update everyone If I end up getting her. Thank you all for the advice.

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Originally Posted by Big Cat

I ended up not getting the pastel. Felt like she wasn't for me. Maybe spending a few more dollars will better my chance of producing better offspring. I actually have my eye on a female super pastel. I will keep update everyone If I end up getting her. Thank you all for the advice.

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:D super pastel would be better in my book, if you can afford her. Then all offspring carry pastel :P

In the end, it all comes down to what you like and what you'd like to own. We can declare what's quality in our eyes and what's determined as the standard for quality. But it's still up to you in the end :)

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For the record the female pastel I posted is an adult and is atleast a few years old and has no "brown." So no, all them do not brown out

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Just to plays devil's advocate here, technically your pastel is Pastel-ish since you said she was a WC import unless you have some awesome babies from it,it could have some more to it then just a regular old pastel(fantastic looking snake by the way:D), as for the OP pic the crapy pic quality does not help. Like it was posted earlier maybe a super pastel would be more worth your while if you plan on breeding.

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Originally Posted by coreydelong

They don't all brown out. This is a fairly nice example of a 2yo still retaining very nice color.

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...Pablo_14-1.jpg

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I think this is a very nice adult. It's still very yellow considering its age. Minimal browning.

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