Purchased as a Mojave

I just picked up this snake from a local pet store. It was marked as a mojave but seems way too light to me. Please let me know what you think. They usually only have normals but they had a breeder drop off a few morphs. I don't know the paring I'm sure that would have helped. It was cheap so I took a chance.

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Bad pictures but nice mojo.
Male or Female??

Female. Sorry I just snapped a few quick pics with my iPhone. Best pics I could get for now. Will get a few more tonight.

Is this you?

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...=onlyonecanoli

Because I really hope you didn't pick up a new snake if you still owe others money.

Since he was here up until about 30 seconds ago and didn't respond, i would say it's safe to assume that it is in fact the same person.

Hahaha. Nice mojo at least

I didn't buy this snake a friend did and I am currently paying back people for things that happened. That's all I will say about that situation

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I didn't buy this snake a friend did and I am currently paying back people for things that happened. That's all I will say about that situation

Thats not what you said in the original post... Its amazing how the story changes...

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Originally Posted by OnlyOneCanoli

I just picked up this snake from a local pet store. It was marked as a mojave but seems way too light to me. Please let me know what you think. They usually only have normals but they had a breeder drop off a few morphs. I don't know the paring I'm sure that would have helped. It was cheap so I took a chance.

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Hmmm... Inconsistency.

If you really have made arrangements with those to whom you are in debt, perhaps asking them politely to add that to your BOI thread would be in order. Demonstrating that you are taking care of your obligations would do a lot to start repairing the damage done to your reputation.

As I said a friend got it because I currently can't buy anything. We were at the pet store together and saw it he bought it for me because it was really cheap and we couldn't figure out what it was

Things happen and people make mistakes and I am making thing right the best I can as fast as I can I was just asking for help on an Id of a snake I wasn't trying to stir any crap.

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Things happen and people make mistakes and I am making thing right the best I can as fast as I can I was just asking for help on an Id of a snake I wasn't trying to stir any crap.

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Originally Posted by OnlyOneCanoli

I just picked up this snake from a local pet store ... It was cheap so I took a chance.

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Originally Posted by OnlyOneCanoli

I didn't buy this snake a friend did

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Only pointing this out because there's no way to mistake the two. I have no way to tell which one is correct but I will tell you that people are gonna be on your butt for this because it DOES sound odd. Why would you say you bought it instead of just saying "my friend bought it" in the first place? Nobody would've said anything, people ask questions about their friends'/family's/others' snakes all the time.

See what I mean though?

Ok I miss worded what I was trying to say. I am in possession of a snake that I would like help Id. I used the word purchase because I dont want people to think it was a random snake

If I would have said a friend bought an snake and I have it then everyone would have asked why do I have it. Any way I would have said it I would have been wrong.

You should have used that money your friend gave you to buy the snake to pay off your debts instead.

I doesn't matter what I say anyway I'm gonna be wrong. I'm not gonna tell someone hey don't buy that give me cash for a Christmas present. It's a nice gesture but give me money.

I was just asking for Id help if this is just gonna turn into something else please delete this thread. Any Id help would be greatly appreciated if this is just gonna be an off topic argument please delete thanks.

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Originally Posted by OnlyOneCanoli

I was just asking for Id help if this is just gonna turn into something else please delete this thread. Any Id help would be greatly appreciated if this is just gonna be an off topic argument please delete thanks.

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Sorry but "this" thread isn't the problem ;)
You chose to mark yourself:gj::gj:

I know this must be frustrating ...but this is what happens in our community when someone screws people over time and time again. You get blacklisted. People will not only not do business with you by selling snakes, they also will not buy from you, and will probably not welcome you with open arms into a discussion. Until you prove otherwise, by making things right by those that you have wronged, don't expect any help or sympathy.

Trolls even get welcomed, questions answered, etc. Scammers and thieves do not. Its a long road back from the gutter, first step is making things right.

Good luck.

Your canoli is over done.....Return the mojave, get your money back (Friend's whatever) and start paying your debt back.

Most people do not know about the BOI, but I guarantee you every reptile forum has members that follow the BOI very closely so until you pay these people back you will get responses like this. It sucks but what you did is not so great either.

I can't believe what I've just read. This guy is a compulsive lier and a thief.

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Originally Posted by OnlyOneCanoli

Things happen and people make mistakes and I am making thing right the best I can as fast as I can I was just asking for help on an Id of a snake I wasn't trying to stir any crap.

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Things happen and people make mistakes and I am making thing right the best I can as fast as I can I was just asking for help on an Id of a snake I wasn't trying to stir any crap.

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Sal,

I'd love to believe what you're saying about paying people back and making it right as fast as you can. I was more then decent with you with giving you more time and listening to your excuses and you have not made one effort with me to make it right. You no longer respond to questions about sending the money orders you promise or give any updates. You really should follow through and then try to show that you can be trusted as someone else has already said, it's a small community and people don't forget quickly. Making it right with all involved would go a long way to helping yourself as well as giving others, including me, the money you owe them.

Brian

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Originally Posted by OnlyOneCanoli

Things happen and people make mistakes and I am making thing right the best I can as fast as I can I was just asking for help on an Id of a snake I wasn't trying to stir any crap.

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For you, its a normal....

1) the snake is nothing special. Ordinary imo.
2) Sell the mojave and your collection to pay people back.... It sounds like you have some high dollar snakes in your possession.
It's better to settle a debt than keep wading in dangerous waters.
And if you're having financial/family/life issues whatever, how do you have the means to take care of your animals?

How old are you?
If you think breeding your snakes are more important than integrity and doing the right thing, then this community isn't for you.


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Get out of the hobby. It's people like you that ruin it.

horrible... hope everything works out for Luke

Been following the BOI thread and I know hes not paying anyone back. The scary thought is of the scammers out there that aren't so fail.

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Originally Posted by OnlyOneCanoli

I didn't buy this snake a friend did and I am currently paying back people for things that happened. That's all I will say about that situation

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I didn't buy this snake a friend did and I am currently paying back people for things that happened. That's all I will say about that situation

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That's funny...cause I haven't seen a single cent or any communication from you in months. Telling others you're paying people back won't get people to believe you until those people screwed by you let everyone know that you've made things right....and it looks like I'm the second person in this thread that hasn't seen any money yet.....

Oh and I hear you don't even have my snake anymore....

This guy sounds like scum and has the nerve to post his new finds..?!?

I haven't looked at the other thread but how did he get snakes before payment?

If i remember right it was a trade but he never shipped his end of the trade.

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Originally Posted by MrLang

Been following the BOI thread and I know hes not paying anyone back. The scary thought is of the scammers out there that aren't so fail.

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I know this guy's stunts are enraging everyone, but this reads a lot like a threat of physical violence. We probably shouldn't cross that line in these forums. Walk away for 24 hours if he's making you that angry; this kind of response is apt to get the cops called on you instead of him.

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Originally Posted by loonunit

I know this guy's stunts are enraging everyone, but this reads a lot like a threat of physical violence. We probably shouldn't cross that line in these forums. Walk away for 24 hours if he's making you that angry; this kind of response is apt to get the cops called on you instead of him.

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Didn't see any sort of threat whatsoever.. this guy is a classic example of a scumbag, and even though I'm completely disconnected from the situation it still pisses me off.

only if there was a section where we could blacklist these kinds of people and let new comers like me know to stay away!

luckily i stumbled on this thread. didnt know there was "craigslist type scams" in the herp world SMH

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Originally Posted by bx718

only if there was a section where we could blacklist these kinds of people and let new comers like me know to stay away!

luckily i stumbled on this thread. didnt know there was "craigslist type scams" in the herp world SMH

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There is, you just have to know where to find it <----- ;)

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Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl

There is, you just have to know where to find it <----- ;)

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very nice. just got my account approved!

I need to get on some of the selling sites. Craigslist just isn't moving the little ones enough.

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Didn't see any sort of threat whatsoever.. this guy is a classic example of a scumbag, and even though I'm completely disconnected from the situation it still pisses me off.

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Pretty sure the comment was magically changed after the 10-minute mark. If so, I'm okay with that. If not, my mistake, and I apologize.

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Pretty sure the comment was magically changed after the 10-minute mark. If so, I'm okay with that. If not, my mistake, and I apologize.

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Magically? I left a note saying why it had been edited and everything. :P

I'm sick of people like this. I've gotten scammed before (not with snakes) and I just don't understand how people can go about life after doing these things and not feel absolutely terrible...

This kid is one of kind. He burned a buddy of mine he has been using whatever happens in the world as a excuse. Just few weeks ago said a family was in the newtown shooting or his aunt died like 50 times. He was supposed to make good on a trade he never sent for my buddy. Sal said he would do a trade with the Spector owed to my buddy with few others for few more my buddy's snake. I told him not to do the trade. He instead sent the snakes to me. Once sal new they snakes where her in ct he was supposed to release a tracking number from ups because he works there. Well he had more lies and bs and had the snake sent back to him. Never gave a tracking. Now sal was supposed to call me and pay for shipping back to my buddy he will never come threw on any deal. He has a case being built against him as we speak. More evidence is needed. He will soon be doing time with bubba as this is not his first run in with the law. Sal ill make sure i drop off soap on a rope for ya. Your gonna need it. He can also be seen at white plains show I got a few pics of him if u wanna know who to look for

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He can also be seen at white plains show I got a few pics of him if u wanna know who to look for

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I don't think they will let you post them here but I know you can over on the fauna thread. I sure would like to know what a dead-beat face looks like just incase I happen to run into them during dealings. ;)

Ya I can't post them but will sen them email to all who vend there

I made the deal with rich to make good on a deal we had. He was supposed to send the snakes to me and did not that's why I held my snakes at the hub. I offered to after my snakes came back to me I was gonna bring them to you and pick up my snakes from you. He said this was unacceptable and wanted me to release my snakes to him and then he would tell me where my snakes were. It was never part of the deal to send his snakes to someone else. He was trying to rip off my snake because he new nobody would care if I got ripped off. I offered him 10 times to bring the snakes to you with money to ship them to him and I could pick up my end of the trade. You know this is true. He was trying to get me to send the snake to him and then not give me anything and nobody would care he ripped me off. Send me pics of the snakes at your house as proof and I will bring my end to you. Deal done so you could see I'm not lying.

I also would try to sell a few of the snakes I have left to use to pay towards people I owe but nobody would trust me or buy a snake from me and when I did set up a deal to make good on a bad deal all that happened was I almost got ripped off for my snakes and nobody would have cared. So now I can't sell anything to help pay off my debt and everyone that I could deal with could just rip me off and nobody will care or even believe me like what just happened.

I'm gonna be sending as much as I can whenever I can to those I owe and when my tax return comes in this year I will pay the rest to whomever I still owe because trying to trade snakes to make the deal right isn't gonna work I guess. I have 3 kids and only my wife is working part time it's not easy to pay back as fast as everyone would like I also really don't appreciate people calling and threatning me and my family. That is not how to get things resolved.

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Originally Posted by OnlyOneCanoli

I also would try to sell a few of the snakes I have left to use to pay towards people I owe but nobody would trust me or buy a snake from me and when I did set up a deal to make good on a bad deal all that happened was I almost got ripped off for my snakes and nobody would have cared. So now I can't sell anything to help pay off my debt and everyone that I could deal with could just rip me off and nobody will care or even believe me like what just happened.

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Suggestion: Make a deal with the petstore you got your mojave from. It sounds like they have morphs. Sell the snakes to them or have them sell the snakes for you for a percentage of the price.

Suggestion 2: get a loan from the Bank or a family member.

Yes. I doubt people would have cared if you got ripped off. It's the same actions you did in the first place after all... Ripping people off..........



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Originally Posted by OnlyOneCanoli

I have 3 kids and only my wife is working part time it's not easy to pay back as fast as everyone would like I also really don't appreciate people calling and threatning me and my family. That is not how to get things resolved.

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Then it sounds like you probably should pick a cheaper hobby AND maybe watch who you rub the wrong way.:cool:;)

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Originally Posted by OnlyOneCanoli

I have 3 kids and only my wife is working part time .

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Why the heck are you buying ANYTHING other then the bare essentials needed to TAKE CARE OF YOUR FAMILY?????? The word is SACRIFICE, man...look it up! These "sob stories" drive me crazy. I've got absolutely no sympathy for you...period.

I couldn't ever read through your last 3 postings. Got tired of reading your BS about 3 pages back.

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Originally Posted by OnlyOneCanoli

I have 3 kids and only my wife is working part time it's not easy to pay back as fast as everyone would like.

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Then why get more snakes? (Aka the Mojave)
That's more money away from you and your family....

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