Spotnose?

Okay I am rehoming a Leo and was offered a bp trade, they say its a spotnose but I am not good at the morph stuff, especially with a hard one like spotnose.. So I am asking for opinions! The other morphs they offered are correct, so I dont think they are bs-ing but I just want to make sure since I cant tell...

Here are some pics..

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/24/arymy9a6.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/24/u2azepe8.jpg

Thanks in advance!

¡ERMAGHERD A DERK!

I don't own any spotnose, but it does not look like a spotnose to me.

Doesnt look like a spotnose. Id need a better shot of the tip of the nose and a belly shot (spotnose bellies are busy, almost like blackbellies). However, general rule for the more subtle morphs is if you have to ask keep looking.

Looks like one to me.. Markers can be spots on the nose, a busy head pattern, a busy overall pattern, and a light color. I'd say this is a spotnose, but not the best example of one.

IMO based off the few I've seen in person, plus the one I own, it does not look like one. If it is one, is a very low quality one then. Hope this helps.

I'd say it looks like a spotnose (not even just looking at the spots on the nose).

I must not be very good at IDing spotnoses. I don't see it in that dude.


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Spotnoses do not have to have actual spots on their noses (aka "booger nose"). The head stamp is what's most definitive about the morph. Get better pics of the top of the head and body.

That doesnt look like a spotnose to me, and if it is i dont think its a very good example of one. This is what i think when i picture a spotnose:
http://i509.photobucket.com/albums/s...20106_737o.jpg

(Random google image)

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That doesnt look like a spotnose to me, and if it is i dont think its a very good example of one. This is what i think when i picture a spotnose:
http://i509.photobucket.com/albums/s...20106_737o.jpg

(Random google image)

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Mike,

That is a TERRIBLE reference. That is a dramatic representation of the morph and they don't look like that in person. That photo is doctored or under some weird lighting.
The pic below is more accurate of a typical spotnose. I have produced some just like this, and others that are more dramatic. The pic below is from google.

http://www.captivebredreptileforums....tnose-male.jpg

Hm, he does have that little spot on his nose, headstamp too. Ask for belly pics.

Also,

Here are some pics of ones I produced/own

Male marbled spotnose (marbled is just the term I use to describe his pattern)
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.n...95102128_n.jpg

Spotnose hatchling (prior to 1st shed)

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.n...64215516_n.jpg


Group of spotnose hatchlings (prior to 1st shed)

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.n...22491700_n.jpg



Anyways,
Hope the extra references help.

The only other thing it looks like to me would be a Fire.
The thing looks like it needs to shed so that isn't helping either.

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Mike,

That is a TERRIBLE reference. That is a dramatic representation of the morph and they don't look like that in person. That photo is doctored or under some weird lighting.
The pic below is more accurate of a typical spotnose. I have produced some just like this, and others that are more dramatic. The pic below is from google.

http://www.captivebredreptileforums....tnose-male.jpg

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I was referencing that pic for the headstamp. I honestly dont know what their colors/patterns are supposed to look like. Your pics of ones you produced have really nice headstamps too and shows their colors better. :gj:

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The only other thing it looks like to me would be a Fire.
The thing looks like it needs to shed so that isn't helping either.

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I agree. Thats what i said too. I said full body shots in natural light would help too.

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Originally Posted by Mike41793

I agree. Thats what i said too. I said full body shots in natural light would help too.

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Yeah dude,

The headstamp is unmistakeable. The one in the photo he posted does look more like a fire headstampt to me. Same with the faded or "burned" dots in the alien heads. I have seen more than a handful of fires with spots on the nose too.

Either way that thing isn't a normal, but I am actually leaning more towards fire from the photos (took another good lookw with them expanded).

I concur with that diagnosis doctor. Pass me Scalpel #7 please.

Also just fyi pooks is a chick lol.

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Originally Posted by Mike41793

I concur with that diagnosis doctor. Pass me Scalpel #7 please.

Also just fyi pooks is a chick lol.

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From now on, I assume nothing and will consistently exercise "s/he" when addressing a member who's sex I have not yet familiarized myself with.

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From now on, I assume nothing and will consistently exercise "s/he" when addressing a member who's sex I have not yet familiarized myself with.

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I will too, to try and keep it pc. Both sexes are equal and we should really strive to eliminate gender inequalities. This will probably start a gender equality renaissance on bp.net. It could very well start trending on the twitter and the facebook too. We'll have to find someone good to author our biography.

So its not a normal, but not sure its a spotnose.. Im waiting on better pictures, I asked for a better head shot, body stretched out, and belly shot..
Even if I dont get her this is really helping me learn what to look for in a spotnose!

¡ERMAGHERD A DERK!

Lol and yea I am female :P

¡ERMAGHERD A DERK!

I vote no to spotnose

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/25/8ahevuqa.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/25/ady9ezu3.jpg

¡ERMAGHERD A DERK!

Based on those pictures, I'd pass on that one. Maybe would change my mind if seeing it in person. As previously mentioned, most single-gene Spotnose have lots of black belly scales. The Spotnose in the picture below have fairly clear bellies but that is due to the Het Pied influence.
http://piedpeddler.com/data/storage/...7cbc194a2c.jpg

Paul

Definitely not a spotnose. However, I see a likely fire. What's the asking price?

I don't see spotnose in that snake... I've got something of a soft spot for that morph and the first thing I always notice about them is extreme head pattern/stamp. I do agree with the fire-like appearance of it though