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Calico Pied

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  • 12-09-2012, 12:22 AM
    MS2
    Calico Pied
    Does this morph exist? I searched the World of Bp site and could not find one. Would it be hard to tell if calico was in the pied? Would the Pied just be all white? There are other Pied combos that are on there, but are all white. Just curious....I'll be getting a new female Calico on Tuesday and just making some future plans.
  • 12-09-2012, 01:31 AM
    snake8myelbo
    I dont think its been created yet. But I'm sure it will be produced this season or next. A few people are working on it. Its either going to be extreme or subtle? I think most people are staying away because they think it will be to subtle added to the pied gene. I love calicos and can't wait to see it myself!
  • 12-09-2012, 06:05 AM
    Brian Fobian
  • 12-09-2012, 10:14 AM
    MS2
    Re: Calico Pied
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Brian Fobian View Post

    Well it looks like the project is being worked on. Good luck with it. I hope it doesn't turn the Pied all white. I think it would be cool to have a medium white Pied Calico.
  • 12-09-2012, 11:31 AM
    Quantum Constrictors
    Re: Calico Pied
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Brian Fobian View Post

    Nice!

    Is the Calico Het or are you making hets?
  • 12-09-2012, 11:49 AM
    Balls&burms_DEA
    Good question!!
  • 12-10-2012, 01:35 PM
    Brian Fobian
    Unfortunately I'm making hets :)
  • 12-10-2012, 02:12 PM
    h00blah
  • 12-10-2012, 03:02 PM
    loonunit
    He's selling it as sugar, but he's pricing it as poss het.
  • 12-10-2012, 03:40 PM
    h00blah
    Re: Calico Pied
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by loonunit View Post
    He's selling it as sugar, but he's pricing it as poss het.

    At that time, sugar and calico females were going for $800 :gj:. Old pics lol.
  • 12-10-2012, 06:42 PM
    scooter11
    What it's the difference between a sugar and a calico
  • 12-10-2012, 07:11 PM
    h00blah
    Re: Calico Pied
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by scooter11 View Post
    What it's the difference between a sugar and a calico

    Very subtle differences. Google them and look at as many pictures as possible. A good way to see how they combo is to look at the pastel versions of each.

    Go here: http://www.worldofballpythons.com/wizard/

    Look up pastel x calico and pastel x sugar

    Look at how they vary, and look at what traits are more consistent between the 2, and make up your mind for yourself :gj:. My vote is that they're different. Others will disagree. Sorry I can't give you a straight answer.
  • 12-10-2012, 07:11 PM
    BigJayPiercer
    Re: Calico Pied
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by scooter11 View Post
    What it's the difference between a sugar and a calico

    Two different Lines of the same morph. It's Like Butter and Lesser
  • 07-14-2014, 03:30 PM
    pmarks
    Calico Pied
    I am working on this project as well with my male pied and my female calico 66% het pied. I just hope she proves out.
  • 07-14-2014, 05:33 PM
    Brandon Osborne
    Read what Mike Wilbanks has to say about Calico VS Sugar. I've always thought the Sugar combos were nicer than Calicos.....Mike's article says the same.
  • 07-19-2014, 01:09 PM
    MS2
    Has anybody had any luck yet with this project? Making plans for next season and would really like to see some pics if they exist.
  • 07-21-2014, 12:58 AM
    ClarkT
    Calico pied could be awesome! Hopefully someone is getting close. I'd love to start towards that.

    As far as calico vs. sugar, they are the same morph. Doesn't anybody besides me get tired of this? There is sooooooooo much variability in morphs.

    I work with the trick morph. There is a HUGE variability in the look of tricks. Just like there is a HUGE variability in the look of calicos. There's a huge variability in the look of Piebalds, lessers, sparks, tricks, pastels, spiders, black pastels, cinnamons, normals, etc.... Calico = Sugar, Sugar = Calico... Butter = Lesser,
  • 07-21-2014, 01:19 AM
    alan12013
    ClarckT, I'm still a rookie in genetic knowledge but as long as you can visually see consistent differences then why be oppose to having different names? Especially once you start gene stacking and realize that your 4 gene animal looks nothing like the ones that every one else has. As a professional breeder the subtle differences can mean huge differences in the long run. That's why I personally don't mind if a few different lines of the same morph having different names. I checked out your FB and you have some pretty cool animals. I'm a fan of that pastel trick.
  • 07-26-2014, 04:58 PM
    MS2
    Still no luck. I've tried to contact the only two people to seem to be working on this project with no response. I emailed Ralph Davis and he doesn't believe they exist yet. I guess I will have to try:gj:
  • 07-27-2014, 06:57 PM
    Frodo Baggins
    Re: Calico Pied
    Hiya guys,
    sorry I haven't been here in ages, but I thought I'd better share a few pictures with you.

    A few days ago I had a clutch hatch out, that I have been waiting for... almost since day one. A bit more than 2 years ago I came across the nicest Flora & Fauna Line Calico I had ever seen. I had to buy her on the spot. The Plan from that day onward was to make Yellow Belly Calicos. And so it went.
    The beeding was:

    My F&F Calico X Pumpkin Pied! I had 6 Eggs, one died during the last weeks of incubation, the remaining 5.... went on to do great things.

    A few days ago I go:

    2 Yellow Belly Calico Het. Pied
    2 Calico Het. Pied
    And 1 Yellow Belly Het. Pied

    I'll show you the 2 2 Yellow Belly Calico Het. Pied frist... since they are the most impressive.

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater
  • 07-27-2014, 09:41 PM
    stoaob3
    Re: Calico Pied
    Wow super nice
  • 07-27-2014, 09:53 PM
    MS2
    Nice! Looks like you are well on your way to producing some Calico Pieds....and then some:gj:Good luck
  • 07-27-2014, 11:40 PM
    ClarkT
    Ach, du liebe Zeit! Wow!!!!!
    Those calico YB het pieds are ausgezeichnet!
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