Breeding several females to 1 male

Hi guys,

Just wondering, I have a male lesser ball (700g) and 3 up to size female normal (2kg plus) to be bred this coming year. All are in good health and weight.

Is it advisable to do the lesser male with 1 female for 3 days in and 3 days off routine rotating all 3 females?

Need advise, thanks

please search.... that will be fine, just watch the males weight as always

That will be fine.

Are you asking if you should move the females to his tub? It's a lot easier to just move the male around in my opinon, but it's totally up to you. I look at it from the stand point of keeping the females relaxed and not stressing them by moving them to different tubs.

Does it really make any difference for the male to be taken to more then 1 female as opposed to 1 female? So long as its the same cycle what would be the difference as far as stress to the male? Wouldn't there be absolutely no difference between taking a male to one female vs taking him to say 10? So long as the cycle is still 3 days in 3-5 days out, whats the difference to the male? I understand the difference from the female side.

I've heard stories from my friend about "stretching out" males meaning they bred him to 10+ females and had alot of slugs out of the ones past 7-8 like thy ran out of swimmers. I personally will see what the male does if I think he can handle 5-6 females I won't over do it but most males can easily handle 3 even my chocolate started breeding at 350g and bred 6 females and all laid good clutches.

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Originally Posted by OctagonGecko729

Does it really make any difference for the male to be taken to more then 1 female as opposed to 1 female? So long as its the same cycle what would be the difference as far as stress to the male? Wouldn't there be absolutely no difference between taking a male to one female vs taking him to say 10? So long as the cycle is still 3 days in 3-5 days out, whats the difference to the male? I understand the difference from the female side.

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thru breeding I try and place the male with the female with a good lock once a month. last few season had my ultrasound, helps a lot if you have a high end male you want to spread out to many females.

Right so, on the male side of things (dieing from exhaustion/starvation/stress) it doesnt make a difference how many girls. But from the female side of things (fertile eggs) its best to keep the male down to just a few females unless you have been in the game for a while or have an ultrasound.

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Originally Posted by OctagonGecko729

Right so, on the male side of things (dieing from exhaustion/starvation/stress) it doesnt make a difference how many girls. But from the female side of things (fertile eggs) its best to keep the male down to just a few females unless you have been in the game for a while or have an ultrasound.

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if I have a small young male, I'll breed him to 1 or 2 females. but before I got the ultrasound, I like to get a good lock once a month to every female that a good breeding size male was breeding too, and still giving him the time off between females. I have a new breeding male this year, he's around the 800 gram mark. he's breeding and also eating. so he can be breed to more with him being on feed. just my way of doing things with good results.

How does the ultrasound help? What exactly are you looking at with it?

People use ultrasound to look at the size of he egg follicles in their breeding females. Sometimes this helps determine when the best time to pair up your snakes is, and determine when they will lay(ish)

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Originally Posted by don15681

I like to get a good lock once a month to every female that a good breeding size male was breeding too, and still giving him the time off between females.

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^^This!!! No reason to go 3 in, 3 out breeding 3 females. Though if you don't own an ultrasound(which I don't) or don't palpate for follicles well, I guess the more locks the better.

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Originally Posted by Capray

People use ultrasound to look at the size of he egg follicles in their breeding females. Sometimes this helps determine when the best time to pair up your snakes is, and determine when they will lay(ish)

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Very interesting, I would love to try this. Thanks!

The male I bred to multiple females last year I kept the rotation very simple. I fed the snakes on sunday, paired them tuesday evening, removed the male on thursday evening unless they were locked, then fed again on sunday. It made keeping the timing straight easier, and my male got enough rest between females.

This year my little stud pied male is going to be my star breeder, and since he's a picky eater and a slow grower, I'll be watching him like a hawk.

Gale

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Originally Posted by Badgemash

How does the ultrasound help? What exactly are you looking at with it?

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with an ultrasound, you don't have to place the male in with the females until the females are ready. so you're not wasting him on breeding before you need too. the end result is he can be place with more females being he will only be placed at the right times. from what I read by some of the larger breeders, the best time to start placing a male with the females is when the follicles are 12 to 15 mm. depending on how fast she goes threw her breeding cycle. which you can see with the ultrasound, determines how many times you need to breed him to that female.

without the ultrasound. you can place the male in with the female a lot as long as you give him the breaks he needs. when I was rotating the male with his females. as long as one of the breeding that month resulted in a lock, I had great results this way. if the female locked with a male at the beginning of the month, she was good that month and If another female didn't lock that month. He could be placed in with that one more. record keeping is so important. good luck don