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  • 12-04-2012, 09:57 PM
    Tes95
    Somebody help! Something's wrong with my snake! :(
    All of a sudden over the past few days she's gotten really aggressive and hisses all the time at me, but I haven't handled her for 5 days! She's always in her hide and when I try to feed her she just hisses at me instead. My mom says if she doesn't eat or get better we might have to get rid of her! :please: Help.. :tears:
  • 12-04-2012, 10:01 PM
    satomi325
    Can you describe the aggressive behavior? How old is your snake and how long have you had her? What's your husbandry like and have you changed anything recently? How about your routine? What do you feed?

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  • 12-04-2012, 10:03 PM
    Tes95
    Re: Somebody help! Something's wrong with my snake! :(
    Okay, I explained this to several other users, but here we go. I have her in a 40 Gallon breeder with everything save for a thermostat, but the temp is a nice 85-90 at daytime and never below a 72 at night. She's a normal baby girl, I got her the 23rd of November, nothing has been changed. She actually bit me the other day, she hisses constantly now, and she never would do either of these things for the first week.
  • 12-04-2012, 10:07 PM
    Tes95
    She's literally acting like a python period and I can't fathom it. I've mostly left her alone, several days between holding, she has clean water, nice cozy hides, good humidity.
  • 12-04-2012, 10:07 PM
    elbee
    Could she be going into shed? They get pretty cranky, stay in their hide and often refuse food.
  • 12-04-2012, 10:09 PM
    Tes95
    Re: Somebody help! Something's wrong with my snake! :(
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by elbee View Post
    Could she be going into shed? They get pretty cranky, stay in their hide and often refuse food.

    Anything's possible, she won't let me get near her stomach which is disturbing. Not like she's hiding it, just... I like keeping my blood inside my body. She's coupled her bark with her bite.
  • 12-04-2012, 10:09 PM
    Daybreaker
    How are you measuring your temps?
  • 12-04-2012, 10:09 PM
    elbee
    Also, a baby in a 40 gallon tank could feel pretty insecure.
  • 12-04-2012, 10:10 PM
    I-KandyReptiles
    How are you measuring temps?
  • 12-04-2012, 10:10 PM
    Tes95
    Re: Somebody help! Something's wrong with my snake! :(
    I feed her every 5-7 days.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bobbafett View Post
    How are you measuring temps?

    Digital thermo-hygrometer. With sensor probe.
  • 12-04-2012, 10:11 PM
    Tes95
    Re: Somebody help! Something's wrong with my snake! :(
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by elbee View Post
    Also, a baby in a 40 gallon tank could feel pretty insecure.

    Let me rephrase that. She's at the minimum 8 months, maximum a little over a year.
  • 12-04-2012, 10:20 PM
    PorcelainxDoll
    Thats still a lil to big. I would give her more hides or clutter up the tank with crumpled paper or leaves.


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  • 12-04-2012, 10:22 PM
    Tes95
    Re: Somebody help! Something's wrong with my snake! :(
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PorcelainxDoll View Post
    Thats still a lil to big. I would give her more hides or clutter up the tank with crumpled paper or leaves.


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    She has some plants and a log in there. I suppose I could make some box hides.
  • 12-04-2012, 10:32 PM
    satomi325
    Yeah. Sounds like she's just feeling insecure and not aggressive. Does she attack you at all? In and out of the cage? Attacking outside the enclosure is aggression. Striking only in the enclosure is being defensive. 40 gallons is pretty big. I would only keep established adults in one. And some snakes are just hissy. I have 2 that always talk but never have bitten.

    Just clutter up your tank more. Add more hides. One log isn't sufficient enough. I would honestly return that. She needs 2 identical snug fitting hides that have only 1 opening. The logs don't work very well for security because they have 2 openkngs. Plus they are difficult to sanitize.Maybe even cover 3 sides of the tank with black paper or a background. The clear glass can be scary for a small snake.
    And maybe even use a tank divider to make the enclosure smaller until she grows into it.



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  • 12-04-2012, 10:37 PM
    Tes95
    Re: Somebody help! Something's wrong with my snake! :(
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by satomi325 View Post
    Yeah. Sounds like she's just feeling insecure and not aggressive. Does she attack you at all? In and out of the cage? Attacking outside the enclosure is aggression. Striking only in the enclosure is being defensive. 40 gallons is pretty big. I would only keep established adults in one.

    Just clutter up your tank more. Maybe even cover 3 sides of the tank with black paper or a background. The clear glass can be scary for a small snake.
    And maybe even use a tank divider to make the enclosure smaller until she grows into it.



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    I've been sick with pneumonia and am strapped for cash this month but I'm gonna be trying to get her what she needs. She has hissed and tried to nip me outside the cage. I mean, there's maybe only 16 inches of space from obstacle to obstacle, which is in general the amount of free space (and then there's the walls they're propped up against), she's got plants she likes, her water bowl takes up a good deal of room (like a foot long).

    - - - Updated - - -

    Oh no, I mean driftwood type log. It has no openings.
  • 12-04-2012, 10:39 PM
    Michelle1221
    I have a bee that goes from nice ball python to very cranky and hissy when he starts to go into shed. It's like flipping a switch right after he sheds he goes back to nice ball python.

    It could be a husbandry issue too. A pic of the enclosure and its possible 72 at night might be a little too cool? What are you feeding and how are you heating the tank?
  • 12-04-2012, 10:41 PM
    Tes95
    Re: Somebody help! Something's wrong with my snake! :(
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Michelle Tonkinson View Post
    I have a bee that goes from nice ball python to very cranky and hissy when he starts to go into shed. It's like flipping a switch right after he sheds he goes back to nice ball python.

    It could be a husbandry issue too. A pic of the enclosure and its possible 72 at night might be a little too cool? What are you feeding and how are you heating the tank?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhAmYiwirW4 My tank.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xHPUzQTa7E My snake.

    I followed you guy's advice with the tinfoil top treatment and it works. I'm feeding her (not that it matters she's never eaten for me) thawed fuzzies and using a daytime 60 watt heat lamp and have a 24-hour UTH 40 gallon running.
  • 12-04-2012, 10:44 PM
    Evenstar
    Re: Somebody help! Something's wrong with my snake! :(
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by satomi325 View Post
    Yeah. Sounds like she's just feeling insecure and not aggressive. Does she attack you at all? In and out of the cage? Attacking outside the enclosure is aggression. Striking only in the enclosure is being defensive. 40 gallons is pretty big. I would only keep established adults in one.

    Just clutter up your tank more. Maybe even cover 3 sides of the tank with black paper or a background. The clear glass can be scary for a small snake.
    And maybe even use a tank divider to make the enclosure smaller until she grows into it.


    I agree with all of this.

    Also, GET A THERMOSTAT. There is no excuse not to have one - you can get a Hydrofarm off amazon.com for $30. Even with a digital thermometer to measure temps, temps can spike at various times during the day. And 72 is TOO LOW for night drop! Your temps should not fall below 76. That doesn't sound like much, but to a snake, it's a LOT. Get a thermostat.

    And you must realize, this is a snake. Not a dog. Snakes do not respond to people in the same way as a dog will. Insecurity will make her defensive, but so can being stared at, handled too often, having too large of prey shoved in her face, etc. You might have to gently remind your mom that you are dealing with a reptile and its behavior can not be trained or taught. A certain amount of aggressiveness or defensiveness may be something you will have to live with if you choose to keep snakes.

    Clutter up her cage, black out the back and sides, get a t-stat, and leave her alone for a week. Then offer her a moderately sized prey item withOUT forceing it on her - put it in her cage and leave her alone again. If you feed live, keep an eye on her from a distance; if you feed f/t, leave it in with her overnight. Chances are, she'll eat. And if she's in shed, she should do so before it's time to feed her.

    I am not trying to sound harsh, but you need to be realistic. Hopefully, the advice here will help you! :gj:
  • 12-04-2012, 10:50 PM
    Tes95
    Re: Somebody help! Something's wrong with my snake! :(
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Evenstar View Post
    I agree with all of this.

    Also, GET A THERMOSTAT. There is no excuse not to have one - you can get a Hydrofarm off amazon.com for $30. Even with a digital thermometer to measure temps, temps can spike at various times during the day. And 72 is TOO LOW for night drop! Your temps should not fall below 76. That doesn't sound like much, but to a snake, it's a LOT. Get a thermostat.

    And you must realize, this is a snake. Not a dog. Snakes do not respond to people in the same way as a dog will. Insecurity will make her defensive, but so can being stared at, handled too often, having too large of prey shoved in her face, etc. You might have to gently remind your mom that you are dealing with a reptile and its behavior can not be trained or taught. A certain amount of aggressiveness or defensiveness may be something you will have to live with if you choose to keep snakes.

    Clutter up her cage, black out the back and sides, get a t-stat, and leave her alone for a week. Then offer her a moderately sized prey item withOUT forceing it on her - put it in her cage and leave her alone again. If you feed live, keep an eye on her from a distance; if you feed f/t, leave it in with her overnight. Chances are, she'll eat. And if she's in shed, she should do so before it's time to feed her.

    I am not trying to sound harsh, but you need to be realistic. Hopefully, the advice here will help you! :gj:

    No you're right... I'm just ashamed I can't get the money... I want to get her the new Hygro-Therm by Zilla or Zoomed the controller thing...I can try and swing by petsmart for a thermostat tomorrow.
  • 12-04-2012, 10:50 PM
    swansonbb
    Re: Somebody help! Something's wrong with my snake! :(
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tes95 View Post
    I'm feeding her (not that it matters she's never eaten for me) thawed fuzzies and using a daytime 60 watt heat lamp and have a 24-hour UTH 40 gallon running.

    Fuzzies? Rat or mouse fuzzies? Either way, based on your video, that's way too small. If you're really worried about her eating, try feeding live.
  • 12-04-2012, 10:51 PM
    ewaldrep
    Sounds like there might be a couple of issues that might help out. If you have a UTH without a thermostat that could be very dangerous for your snake. The temperature under the substrate could be hot enough to burn or kill your snake. It also sounds like the food you have might be too small. I think an 8-12 month old BP should be taking at least pups or wean rats. If she won't eat f/t you might have to try live to get her eating and then switch her over later. Best of luck!
  • 12-04-2012, 11:12 PM
    Evenstar
    Re: Somebody help! Something's wrong with my snake! :(
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tes95 View Post
    No you're right... I'm just ashamed I can't get the money... I want to get her the new Hygro-Therm by Zilla or Zoomed the controller thing...I can try and swing by petsmart for a thermostat tomorrow.

    I know how you feel - I'm sorry you've been sick. Hope you're doing better! I am not familiar with the hygro-therm by zilla, but the hyrofarm t-stat off amazon is far superior to the Zoomed controller. That is just essentially a dimmer. The hydrofarm is an actual t-stat and only about $5 more.

    Actually, here's one for only $26 with free shipping!
    http://www.amazon.com/Hydrofarm-MTPR...ords=hydrofarm

    I use one of these with my q/t rack and also as one of my backup t-stats. They aren't perfect, but they work pretty darn good in a pinch - and they're far better than a dimmer. :gj:
  • 12-04-2012, 11:19 PM
    loonunit
    How long have you had her? How many times has she shed for you since you got her?

    Clutter up the 40 gallon. The husbandry tips are worth following. But you can still handle her: just wear a long-sleeve shirt and put on a pair of gardening gloves. Don't let her near your face, obviously. But she can bite gardening gloves all she likes, she can't do any damage.

    That will let you take her out and look at her belly, at least. Is it pink or red? Take a picture and post it here if you see redness. If it's in focus with decent lighting, maybe we can tell you if she's going into shed or has a belly burn.
  • 12-04-2012, 11:31 PM
    Evenstar
    Re: Somebody help! Something's wrong with my snake! :(
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by loonunit View Post
    How long have you had her? How many times has she shed for you since you got her?

    Clutter up the 40 gallon. The husbandry tips are worth following. But you can still handle her: just wear a long-sleeve shirt and put on a pair of gardening gloves. Don't let her near your face, obviously. But she can bite gardening gloves all she likes, she can't do any damage.

    That will let you take her out and look at her belly, at least. Is it pink or red? Take a picture and post it here if you see redness. If it's in focus with decent lighting, maybe we can tell you if she's going into shed or has a belly burn.

    I agree that you should take her out to examine her - making sure there's no burn is a reeeally good idea. But I disagree that you should handle her this week just to handle her. She's been under stress with fluxuating temps and insecurity. She should be left alone just as we'd leave a new acquisition alone for a week or so before handling. :gj:
  • 12-05-2012, 07:03 PM
    Tes95
    Re: Somebody help! Something's wrong with my snake! :(
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by loonunit View Post
    How long have you had her? How many times has she shed for you since you got her?

    Clutter up the 40 gallon. The husbandry tips are worth following. But you can still handle her: just wear a long-sleeve shirt and put on a pair of gardening gloves. Don't let her near your face, obviously. But she can bite gardening gloves all she likes, she can't do any damage.

    That will let you take her out and look at her belly, at least. Is it pink or red? Take a picture and post it here if you see redness. If it's in focus with decent lighting, maybe we can tell you if she's going into shed or has a belly burn.

    She hasn't shed at all. Hasn't fed at all. I'll check her tummy within the next 10 minutes and see.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by loonunit View Post
    How long have you had her? How many times has she shed for you since you got her?

    Clutter up the 40 gallon. The husbandry tips are worth following. But you can still handle her: just wear a long-sleeve shirt and put on a pair of gardening gloves. Don't let her near your face, obviously. But she can bite gardening gloves all she likes, she can't do any damage.

    That will let you take her out and look at her belly, at least. Is it pink or red? Take a picture and post it here if you see redness. If it's in focus with decent lighting, maybe we can tell you if she's going into shed or has a belly burn.

    I've had her since the 23rd of November (last month).
  • 12-05-2012, 07:20 PM
    Tes95
    Re: Somebody help! Something's wrong with my snake! :(
    Update. I think she might be going into shed. She SEEMS to have a TINY bit of pink along her tummy, and she tried striking me like 5 times so I can't get a pic, I have no gloves.
  • 12-05-2012, 09:37 PM
    Evenstar
    Re: Somebody help! Something's wrong with my snake! :(
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tes95 View Post
    She hasn't shed at all. Hasn't fed at all. I'll check her tummy within the next 10 minutes and see.


    I've had her since the 23rd of November (last month).

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tes95 View Post
    Update. I think she might be going into shed. She SEEMS to have a TINY bit of pink along her tummy, and she tried striking me like 5 times so I can't get a pic, I have no gloves.

    Hold the phone!!!

    Well no wonder. STOP. She is stressing out to a new environment. She needs TIME to chill out and relax. BPs need a minimum of a week to be LEFT COMPLETELY ALONE to adjust to their new conditions. They are very shy snakes! You've only had her barely 2 weeks - she needs more time. And this is why she's striking and hasn't eaten. Please please please just black out her tank, get that t-stat, and just stop messing with her for another week or two. She will settle down and relax. Once she relaxes, she'll eat and stop hissing/biteing. You haven't given her a chance. Ok?? K.... :gj:
  • 12-05-2012, 10:24 PM
    PorcelainxDoll
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Evenstar View Post
    Hold the phone!!!

    Well no wonder. STOP. She is stressing out to a new environment. She needs TIME to chill out and relax. BPs need a minimum of a week to be LEFT COMPLETELY ALONE to adjust to their new conditions. They are very shy snakes! You've only had her barely 2 weeks - she needs more time. And this is why she's striking and hasn't eaten. Please please please just black out her tank, get that t-stat, and just stop messing with her for another week or two. She will settle down and relax. Once she relaxes, she'll eat and stop hissing/biteing. You haven't given her a chance. Ok?? K.... :gj:

    X2!

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  • 12-05-2012, 10:26 PM
    Homegrownscales
    Just a quick recommendation that I tell anyone whom gets any of my babies or adults... Don't handle until they've take three consecutive meals. That could be 3 weeks or 3 months. 3 meals in a row. That's my rule. It seems to work extremely well. I'd guess its stress making her uppity like that. I'd Ollie advice given and leave her totally alone for 3 meals in a row.


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  • 12-05-2012, 10:42 PM
    jsmorphs2
    Evenstar and Homegrownscales both had great advice. I also want to add a tip for being on a budget...you can get appropriate sized bowls at the dollar store and by cutting a hole in the side they make great, cheap, easy to clean hides.
  • 12-05-2012, 10:43 PM
    angllady2
    Aww, she's not aggressive, she's terrified. There is a big difference. You didn't say where you got her, I don't think, but at 8 months to a year old, from a breeder she'd be a pretty good sized snake, from a pet shop she's likely been underfed to keep her small until she sold.

    take things one step at a time. First off is to do the best you can to fix her home. The tank is really big for her, because unlike most species of snakes, ball pythons like smaller, tighter spaces. Space to her means more chances of being spotted by a predator and ending up a meal. She has no clue there isn't any danger from predators. So, think small, tight, and fairly dim. They don't like bright lights. Do try and get yourself a thermostat as soon as you can because heat mats can and do burn snakes easily if not regulated and a burn is a horrible thing. I do think your temps are swinging a bit much for her comfort, and that is only going to make her crabbier. Try to get them as stable as you can. Depending on where she is, maybe a small room heater for a night might be an option, they aren't very much.

    I am not a bit surprised she hasn't eaten for you, she's been through an awful lot recently. Please do explain to your mom she's not mean she is just scared, and once she isn't so scared she'll act better and eat better. But also don't panic if she doesn't eat for a while, it won't hurt her. If you really want her to eat f/t prey, once she's a had at least 7 full days all by herself with very little disturbance from you, try this: Thaw they prey item, usually in warm water or if you have the time, by leaving it at room temperature for a few hours. Once you are sure the prey is completely thawed, dry it off with a rag and get yourself a hair dryer. Get everything ready right next to her home, the prey, feeding tongs and hair dryer. Gently lift off her hide and set it aside. Grip the prey with the feeding tongs, and hit it with the hair dryer for a minute to warm it up good, then really blast the head of the prey with the hair dryer for about 30 seconds so it's really good and hot and then place it down about 8 - 10 inches in front of her. As long as the prey is putting off a massive heat signature and she's relaxed, she should hit it pretty quickly as long as you don't scare her with it. If she doesn't strike right away, gently wiggle the prey around just above the cage floor for a few seconds and see if she starts forward to investigate. Keep the movements small and steady, and chances are good she'll hit it. If she doesn't after about 5 minutes, lay the prey item down and walk away. Turn off any nearby lights and make it nice and dim and quiet. Give her 30 minutes, then go check to see if she's eaten. About half of the time she will have, the other half she won't have. If she did not eat, remove the prey, return her hide and wait another 5 days before trying again.

    Trying to often or too hard to get her to eat is the best way to ensure that she won't eat. She's perfectly capable of going a couple of months without eating, so try not to get too upset about it. It is much harder on us than it is on them, believe me.

    I wish you all the best with your new snake.

    Gale
  • 12-05-2012, 10:44 PM
    barbie.dragon
    Don't bother her for 2 weeks straight. 14 days. Only peek to see if she pooped or peed nothing else.
  • 12-05-2012, 11:43 PM
    Tes95
    Re: Somebody help! Something's wrong with my snake! :(
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Evenstar View Post
    Hold the phone!!!

    Well no wonder. STOP. She is stressing out to a new environment. She needs TIME to chill out and relax. BPs need a minimum of a week to be LEFT COMPLETELY ALONE to adjust to their new conditions. They are very shy snakes! You've only had her barely 2 weeks - she needs more time. And this is why she's striking and hasn't eaten. Please please please just black out her tank, get that t-stat, and just stop messing with her for another week or two. She will settle down and relax. Once she relaxes, she'll eat and stop hissing/biteing. You haven't given her a chance. Ok?? K.... :gj:

    Okay, but she still has some pink on her stomach. Her cage mate had just finished shedding when I got her.
  • 12-05-2012, 11:46 PM
    Ridinandreptiles
    Re: Somebody help! Something's wrong with my snake! :(
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tes95 View Post
    Okay, but she still has some pink on her stomach. Her cage mate had just finished shedding when I got her.

    Woah woah woah.... Cage mate?
  • 12-05-2012, 11:48 PM
    Tes95
    Re: Somebody help! Something's wrong with my snake! :(
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by barbie.dragon View Post
    Don't bother her for 2 weeks straight. 14 days. Only peek to see if she pooped or peed nothing else.

    Last night was the first time I handled her in 5 days, but I can restrict it further, I needed to see her stomach.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ridinandreptiles View Post
    Woah woah woah.... Cage mate?

    Yeah, I'm assuming they were from the same brood. Not mate as in actual mate, she's too juvenile I believe.
  • 12-05-2012, 11:52 PM
    Ridinandreptiles
    Oh bits she's alone with you? I might have read that wrong
  • 12-05-2012, 11:53 PM
    Tes95
    Re: Somebody help! Something's wrong with my snake! :(
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ridinandreptiles View Post
    Oh bits she's alone with you? I might have read that wrong

    Yes, she has free reign (except unacceptable behavior like wandering into the toilet or something) of my room. Not saying I let her off my bed though. Also, this is somewhat irrelevant. But the previous sentences refer to the few times I take her out, and she does her own thing in her cage.
  • 12-06-2012, 12:06 AM
    Capray
    Re: Somebody help! Something's wrong with my snake! :(
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tes95 View Post
    Yes, she has free reign (except unacceptable behavior like wandering into the toilet or something) of my room. Not saying I let her off my bed though. Also, this is somewhat irrelevant. But the previous sentences refer to the few times I take her out, and she does her own thing in her cage.

    Wait..what?
    Leave her IN her cage at least till she eats...rephrase that please, too. You mean you're talking about you guessing when she shed based on her sibling back where she was born..or what?
  • 12-06-2012, 12:52 AM
    Mike41793
    Free reign? What lmao?

    Is this like free range chickens???
  • 12-06-2012, 01:08 AM
    PorcelainxDoll
    Also please get 2 cages, it isnt a good idea to keep 2 snakes in the same enclosure.
    I would sell the big tank and switch to tubs :)

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  • 12-06-2012, 01:47 PM
    Tes95
    Re: Somebody help! Something's wrong with my snake! :(
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Capray View Post
    Wait..what?
    Leave her IN her cage at least till she eats...rephrase that please, too. You mean you're talking about you guessing when she shed based on her sibling back where she was born..or what?

    No I'm just saying a member of the same brood as her (I think it was the same brood because they both came from the same breeder evidently) had finished shedding when I got her, so I thought maybe she's on like the same schedule or something as a possibility.
  • 12-06-2012, 01:51 PM
    Tes95
    Re: Somebody help! Something's wrong with my snake! :(
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PorcelainxDoll View Post
    Also please get 2 cages, it isnt a good idea to keep 2 snakes in the same enclosure.
    I would sell the big tank and switch to tubs :)

    Sent from my LS670 using Tapatalk 2

    I only have one snake.

    Okay look:

    November 23rd, 2012= I got her. She had another little buddy in her tank at the Petsmart. They both came from the same local breeder, both captive bred (I questioned them about it). The other one (the one I didn't get) had JUST finished shedding when I got her. Cleo, (my snake) is now in a 40 Gallon Breeder that she has to herself. She has a little bit of pink (I think) on her belly, I checked last night. So, this is pretty much the timeline.
  • 12-06-2012, 01:53 PM
    Tes95
    Re: Somebody help! Something's wrong with my snake! :(
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mike41793 View Post
    Free reign? What lmao?

    Is this like free range chickens???

    No, if it was anything like that, I'd be dead for she would be a Basilisk. I mean when I take her out (which I haven't been doing lately except I checked her tummy last night) she has free reign of my bed and maybe my room. I just don't let her go anywhere where I can't see her. Because that would be stupid.
  • 12-06-2012, 02:18 PM
    Lipstick_Suckerpunch
    Re: Somebody help! Something's wrong with my snake! :(
    Whoever gave you your BP's really didn't inform you very well on how to take care of them properly. Which makes me think you got them from a pet store and not a breeder. There are tons of reading material online for your new babies. Please do some more research. Lots of breeder websites have tons of information for you to look up for free.

    I read that you were sick recently and short on cash and I hope you feel better but it is very important for you to get the right setup for your little one ASAP. You're snake is not aggressive she is TERRIFIED. So here are my recommendations.

    I saw your cage on youtube. That is huge. My largest female who is 1,500g (3.3 lb) and 3 1/2 feet long is in a tub that's about 1/3 of that size and a heck of a lot shallower. If you insist on keeping her in a cage that size you really need to give her more places to hide. It's not enough to just cover her up. She needs a place that is dark and tight around her body. You can make your own hide boxes for now from dark tubs at the 99ct Store or Dollar Tree... thrift store. I cut a bucket in half and made a little hole for a door and my girl is happier than ever.

    I know this has been said a lot but you need to leave her alone. You've thrust her into an environment with new smells and new sensations and she needs time to adjust. Some people are saying a week but I'm going to recommend 2 weeks (starting now, not counting the time you got her). Give her a nice place to snuggle up and leave her alone. This is extremely important. You're trying to much WAY to fast. You've only had her for little over a week and you're already holding her and trying to feed her. Did you happen to ask the person you got her from when the last time she ate was? She may not even be hungry yet and you introducing food to her is only making the problem worse.


    Those are my recommendations. I hope I didn't sound to mean or judgmental. I honestly wish the best for you and your new BP and am hoping you'll take the advice given in this thread. We just want you to have the most pleasurable experience with your new friend.

    I know this is a really long answer but I have a question for you. When you try and feed her are you feeding her inside her cage? If you plan on feeding her IN her cage I would recommend a snake hook to get her out when you want to hold her. It is very easy for a hungry bp to mistake your fingers for food and try and take a swipe at you but once you've picked them up they usually understand you aren't dinner :).
  • 12-06-2012, 04:49 PM
    Tes95
    Re: Somebody help! Something's wrong with my snake! :(
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lipstick_Suckerpunch View Post
    Whoever gave you your BP's really didn't inform you very well on how to take care of them properly. Which makes me think you got them from a pet store and not a breeder. There are tons of reading material online for your new babies. Please do some more research. Lots of breeder websites have tons of information for you to look up for free.

    I read that you were sick recently and short on cash and I hope you feel better but it is very important for you to get the right setup for your little one ASAP. You're snake is not aggressive she is TERRIFIED. So here are my recommendations.

    I saw your cage on youtube. That is huge. My largest female who is 1,500g (3.3 lb) and 3 1/2 feet long is in a tub that's about 1/3 of that size and a heck of a lot shallower. If you insist on keeping her in a cage that size you really need to give her more places to hide. It's not enough to just cover her up. She needs a place that is dark and tight around her body. You can make your own hide boxes for now from dark tubs at the 99ct Store or Dollar Tree... thrift store. I cut a bucket in half and made a little hole for a door and my girl is happier than ever.

    I know this has been said a lot but you need to leave her alone. You've thrust her into an environment with new smells and new sensations and she needs time to adjust. Some people are saying a week but I'm going to recommend 2 weeks (starting now, not counting the time you got her). Give her a nice place to snuggle up and leave her alone. This is extremely important. You're trying to much WAY to fast. You've only had her for little over a week and you're already holding her and trying to feed her. Did you happen to ask the person you got her from when the last time she ate was? She may not even be hungry yet and you introducing food to her is only making the problem worse.


    Those are my recommendations. I hope I didn't sound to mean or judgmental. I honestly wish the best for you and your new BP and am hoping you'll take the advice given in this thread. We just want you to have the most pleasurable experience with your new friend.

    I know this is a really long answer but I have a question for you. When you try and feed her are you feeding her inside her cage? If you plan on feeding her IN her cage I would recommend a snake hook to get her out when you want to hold her. It is very easy for a hungry bp to mistake your fingers for food and try and take a swipe at you but once you've picked them up they usually understand you aren't dinner :).

    I got her from my Petsmart. My Petsmart buys from local breeders, evidently. I got my information from this very site, Herp websites such as RoyalConstricterDesigns, En.Wikipedia.Org, many places. I have the feeding schedule, she was sent to the Petsmart on November 20th, fed on the 23rd (when I got her) but didn't eat. I am feeding her outside the cage in a box, and I only feed her with tweezers.
  • 12-06-2012, 05:09 PM
    Tes95
    Re: Somebody help! Something's wrong with my snake! :(
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JohnNJ View Post
    I think this may be part of the problem. From another thread:

    I find that extraordinarily offensive. If I wasn't concerned for my snake, I'd have words. :rage: <- I'm not even enraged, because I'm used to dealing with this.
  • 12-06-2012, 05:15 PM
    satomi325
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tes95 View Post
    I got her from my Petsmart. My Petsmart buys from local breeders, evidently. I got my information from this very site, Herp websites such as RoyalConstricterDesigns, En.Wikipedia.Org, many places. I have the feeding schedule, she was sent to the Petsmart on November 20th, fed on the 23rd (when I got her) but didn't eat. I am feeding her outside the cage in a box, and I only feed her with tweezers.

    Feed your little one in the enclosure. The snake will not become aggressive. They feel more secure feeding in a familiar place( aka their home). Moving the snake to another feeding container is stressful on the snake. The chances of them going off feed is higher not to mention they are more prone to bite you since they will associate you moving them as food.

    Try a live hopper mouse next time.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JohnNJ View Post
    I think this may be part of the problem. From another thread:

    What does that have anything to do with helping the OP and his snake? He seems to be willing to listen to our suggestion and answer our questions.

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  • 12-06-2012, 05:17 PM
    Tes95
    Re: Somebody help! Something's wrong with my snake! :(
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by satomi325 View Post
    Feed your little one in the enclosure. The snake will not become aggressive. They feel more secure feeding in a familiar place( aka their home). Moving the snake to another feeding container is stressful on the snake. The chances of them going off feed is higher not to mention they are more prone to bite you since they will associate you moving them as food.

    Try a live hopper mouse next time.



    What does that have anything to do with helping the OP and her snake? She seems to be willing to listen to our suggestion and answer our questions.

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    It doesn't. And he really doesn't want to cause a problem, I assure you. I'm a male, by the way. This is the kind of attitude that ruins the country.
  • 12-06-2012, 05:18 PM
    Tes95
    Re: Somebody help! Something's wrong with my snake! :(
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by satomi325 View Post
    Feed your little one in the enclosure. The snake will not become aggressive. They feel more secure feeding in a familiar place( aka their home). Moving the snake to another feeding container is stressful on the snake. The chances of them going off feed is higher not to mention they are more prone to bite you since they will associate you moving them as food.

    Try a live hopper mouse next time.



    What does that have anything to do with helping the OP and her snake? She seems to be willing to listen to our suggestion and answer our questions.

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    Most people are telling me the cage is the worst place to feed them for the same reason: familiarizing fingers with food.
  • 12-06-2012, 05:25 PM
    satomi325
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tes95 View Post
    It doesn't. And he really doesn't want to cause a problem, I assure you. I'm a male, by the way. This is the kind of attitude that ruins the country.

    I apologize. I fixed my error

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tes95 View Post
    Most people are telling me the cage is the worst place to feed them for the same reason: familiarizing fingers with food.

    Nope. You won't hear that here. Everyone will suggest you feed your ball python in the enclosure. Cage aggression associated with feeding is a myth.

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