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  • 11-19-2012, 09:37 PM
    swansonbb
    This is getting ridiculous...
  • 11-19-2012, 10:05 PM
    3skulls
    I wouldn't mind having to chip my larger snakes (if I had any). I agree that the owner should be accountable. They need to have the responsibility and respect to own such a snake.

    The f&@k ups who let their snakes go are the ones adding fuel to push these bans forward.

    This goes from snakes to dogs to any pet. When you purchase an animal it's a commitment. People are to easy to give something up just because it gets to big, to boring or it's not the next big fad anymore.
    Phuck those people and phuck the people trying to take away my right to own such an awesome creature.

    :)
  • 11-19-2012, 10:15 PM
    swansonbb
    Re: This is getting ridiculous...
    It's not just the people who release their animals into the wild. The animal escapes and resulting injuries have a lot to do with it - if you're going to keep a large animal (no matter what it is), you should have the appropriate enclosure.
  • 11-19-2012, 10:25 PM
    3skulls
    I see that as "letting them go"
  • 11-19-2012, 11:12 PM
    swansonbb
    Re: This is getting ridiculous...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 3skulls View Post
    I see that as "letting them go"

    Fair point. With no fingers, they're terrible at picking locks.
  • 11-20-2012, 12:14 AM
    carlson
    I wish they would stop banning all animals they feel are too scary for the general public. This goes for everything from dogs to snakes, regulation like micro chipping and providing information on what the needed care of said animal is and even a permit to keep them fine do what you feel makes it safer just don't out right ban an animal from anyone owning it cuz some people are stupid.
  • 11-20-2012, 12:27 AM
    BrandiR
    Re: This is getting ridiculous...
    I think the microchipping is a great idea. Of course, if it gets to the point that the animal needs to be scanned so someone can be held accountable, there's a good chance the damage has already been done.

    I don't like bans on specific animals, but I do think regulations are necessary. I'd be really upset if my neighbor got a chimp after reading a caresheet and then it ripped my face off.

    Now that I think about it, I'm not sure I'd feel super vindicated by being assured that they could track it to the owner and he's gonna be in big trouble :)
  • 11-20-2012, 12:34 AM
    Mike41793
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by carlson View Post
    I wish they would stop banning all animals they feel are too scary for the general public. This goes for everything from dogs to snakes, regulation like micro chipping and providing information on what the needed care of said animal is and even a permit to keep them fine do what you feel makes it safer just don't out right ban an animal from anyone owning it cuz some people are stupid.

    x2. Id have no issues with microchipping big snakes, say 10ft+, if i had any.
  • 11-20-2012, 12:42 AM
    carlson
    Ha speaking of animals normal people shouldn't keep I had a aunt (she was like my dads aunt not mine) who married a 100% native man after her husband died and the dude had 2 baby bear cubs that he raised in the house then once they woke up from their third or fourth winter he let them out and they ended up living on his land till the bears and the aunt and husband passed away(2008 I believe)
  • 11-20-2012, 12:22 PM
    3skulls
    The big problem is where do you draw the line..?
    Does it stop at large snakes, big cats, lion fish, pitbulls, apes?
    I have a very hard time with anyone trying to control what another person does. With that said, how do you regulate it so everyone is safe?

    Do I want to wake up to a tiger in my back yard? (well kinda) Do inhale the right to tell someone they can't own a tiger? No.

    The Government should protect the people, not control the people.
  • 11-20-2012, 12:28 PM
    gsarchie
    What concerns me is that it says constrictor snakes. By definition, corn snakes are constrictors! I support microchipping but not until all cats and dogs are required to be microchipped as well. Cats are far worse for the ecosystem and dogs are far more dangerous to humans than most snakes that would be released. Add to the damage that a dog can do the diseases that they can carry that can kill a human (rabies) and I think you get the point. I won't microchip my alligators or olive python that I'm going to get in the near future until all of my neighbor's cats and dogs are chipped.
  • 11-20-2012, 12:37 PM
    3skulls
    Humans have done way more damage than any snake, cat or dog. Yet everyone and anyone has the right to pop out as many as they want. :p
  • 11-20-2012, 12:37 PM
    JeRMz
    Re: This is getting ridiculous...
    Well, there goes my Kimono Dragon and Great White Shark plans...:rofl:
  • 11-20-2012, 12:52 PM
    3skulls
    They won't ban sharks. The HSUS will just outlaw people going into the ocean at all ;)
  • 11-20-2012, 01:47 PM
    carlson
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 3skulls View Post
    They won't ban sharks. The HSUS will just outlaw people going into the ocean at all ;)

    Haha I can see them standing on the beach with cattle prods and uniforms that say "Fun Police"
  • 11-20-2012, 02:28 PM
    swansonbb
    Re: This is getting ridiculous...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JeRMz View Post
    Well, there goes my Kimono Dragon and Great White Shark plans...:rofl:

    "Kimono" dragons... fancy.
  • 11-20-2012, 02:49 PM
    Valentine Pirate
    It just grates me that the general consensus is that a snake is a snake is a snake. Never mind the THOUSANDS of species. Thousands. Dog breeds differ a great deal, how hard can it be to grasp that snakes vary even more. Not that the laws that ban specific species are any better, but the blanket "exotic" bans and regulations are increasingly frustrating. The "all snakes are bad snakes" mentality really reeks out of those types of legislation. I'm lucky to have friends and family who will give me a good ear when I feel a topic or issue comes up that I can help them understand without the common misconceptions, if only lawmakers were so reasonable...
  • 11-20-2012, 02:58 PM
    3skulls
    Lawmakers have a deep pocket, not a good ear.
  • 11-20-2012, 04:38 PM
    MaxT815
    Big snakes should DEFINITLY be microchipped. My ol ladys cat and teacup dog are required by the state to be micro chipped but someone can own a 20 foot retic or burmese no problem...? Big snakes should totally have to be chipped. Kind of common sense if you ask me
  • 11-20-2012, 04:47 PM
    Valentine Pirate
    Re: This is getting ridiculous...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MaxT815 View Post
    Big snakes should DEFINITLY be microchipped. My ol ladys cat and teacup dog are required by the state to be micro chipped but someone can own a 20 foot retic or burmese no problem...? Big snakes should totally have to be chipped. Kind of common sense if you ask me

    Micro-chipping is a great idea, and I think it wouldn't be uncalled for to have to have a permit in order to own/care for them. Falconry sets a great example IMO in requiring people to have the capability and resources to care for the animal before owning one, as well as having documentation with an ID tag (ring around the foot in that case). Huge PITA for anyone who doesn't want to jump through the hoops, and it helps keep wishy washy people who have an initial "Ooo I want it" reaction to something only to get bored with an animal that really needs specialized care and maintenance. Wish they'd consider something like that for venomous snakes or large constrictors, but lawmakers get pretty black and white (and impressionable...) with reptiles. If it's unsafe for one person to have one, it's unsafe for everyone. That's the frustrating part
  • 11-20-2012, 08:12 PM
    3skulls
    Well now that we have this solved, free burms and retics for everyone!!!
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