chocolate gene

What does the chocolate gene do to a pinstripe? I purchased a pinstripe that was poss chocolate. What do I need to look for to be able to tell. I am going to breed her this year and I know I will be able to tell after that but I would like to know what to look for on her. Are there markers what does it do to the pin gene etc

Thanks for your help in advanced
Danny

Here is a pinstripe: http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/pinstripe/

Here is a chocolate pinstripe: http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...ate-pinstripe/

Chocolate is a co-dominant gene, so you can't be "het" or "possible het" for it. You're either chocolate, or your not. So there won't be any markers to look for. If there's a doubt what your snake is, it's probably just a pinstripe. Show a picture and we can tell you for sure.

You should be able to tell.


http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...ate-pinstripe/

great I will look when I get home and if I still cant tell I will post a picture. THank you for the help.

Here's a comparison of a Chocolate Pinstripe breeder and a regular Pinstripe. It's not really hard to tell at all if it's got Chocolate in it. Post a pic of her and lets see!

Chocolate Pinstripe
http://www.bronzeserpent.com/pictures/CPBP-11M2011.jpg

Pinstripe
http://www.bronzeserpent.com/pictures/PIBP12011.jpg

I will post after lunch thank you

Well, I mean right of the bat if you bought it as het choc and that isn't possible, then your pin isn't choc. If you possibly misheard, that's a different story.

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Well, I mean right of the bat if you bought it as het choc and that isn't possible, then your pin isn't choc. If you possibly misheard, that's a different story.

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Could very well have been a case of "She's a pin, pairing was chocolate x pinstripe, she's darker than the others, but I can't really tell for sure...so she might be a chocopin? I dunno, I'll sell as a pin"
Rather than the whole het thing. There are tons of people that sell morphs that are possible for a incomplete dominant, especially newbies who don't know how to tell the difference very well. Pin vs chocolate pin seems like a hard one to swallow for not being able to tell, but who knows! Maybe the pin was super dark or something :D More often you see "Possible yellow belly" or other more subtle morphs.

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Originally Posted by RoseyReps

Could very well have been a case of "She's a pin, pairing was chocolate x pinstripe, she's darker than the others, but I can't really tell for sure...so she might be a chocopin? I dunno, I'll sell as a pin"
Rather than the whole het thing. There are tons of people that sell morphs that are possible for a incomplete dominant, especially newbies who don't know how to tell the difference very well. Pin vs chocolate pin seems like a hard one to swallow for not being able to tell, but who knows! Maybe the pin was super dark or something :D More often you see "Possible yellow belly" or other more subtle morphs.

I like ramblez

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You have it correct. I know its a pin. It was sold strictly as a pin but the breeder said it might possibly be a choc too. it is darker in coloration then normal it seems. I was just wondering how you could tell but I will def post a picture. There is a good chance it is just a pin but I am curious and would like some opinions on the matter.

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...FD74F670FE.jpg

Heres a pic.

Man she has wicked reduced pattern look! I like her :-D I'll leave the morph ID to those better suited to the task. I like her a lot though!

Help please what is this pin? Normal or chocolate?

Looks like a regular pin to me. Not busy or dark enough to have chocolate. The dark morphs tend to busy up the pattern.

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I would say you have a chocolate pin there albeit a subtle one. If you look at the actual pinstriping you can see how it is blushed out in your snake. I havent seen that before in a straight-up pinstripe.
look at this one
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/fi...stripe/001.jpg
heres yourshttp://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...FD74F670FE.jpg
and here's a regular pinhttp://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4VXrkZe4Wm...all+python.jpg

There are quite few lines of Chocolate out there and some are more distinctive than others. I think you should find out what line of chocolate it is supposed to be from the person you got her from and go from there. And if you want to move her just let me know :)
Do you have any other Pins you can put her side by side with and take more/better pics? that usually helps with IDing.
Cheers
Albe

I could see it being a chocolate for the aforementioned reason, too. The blushing in the black. Not sure I've seen a pinstripe have that without some other morph influencing it.