Ball Python Breeders

I was wanting to know if there are any ball python breeders out there that are willing to help a newbie get started into breeding.
Normals or morphs it doesn't matter. I'm just wanting to get started into this amazing world of genetics.

The best thing to do is hang out here for a while and learn. Also be sure to go to local shows and talk to breeders who are vending. There is a lot to learn and even those with tons of experience are still learning and discovering new things with genetics and how things work.

Welcome to BPnet!

I think this person may or may not be begging for free snakes.


This person just got banned permanently from Fauna and this post SCREAMS this person:

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...d.php?t=360119

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...d.php?t=359997


Anyway, if you didn't join this site today and make this post to ask for free snakes then my apologies. If you did, GET OUT.

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Originally Posted by Amber2102

I was wanting to know if there are any ball python breeders out there that are willing to help a newbie get started into breeding.

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What exactly do you mean?

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Originally Posted by Adam Chandler

What exactly do you mean?

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Not begging for anything nor free snakes. Just asking if there are any ball python breeders on here that can give deals on purchases of snakes to help me get a breeding project started. That's all i'm asking.

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Originally Posted by Amber2102

Not begging for anything nor free snakes. Just asking if there are any ball python breeders on here that can give deals on purchases of snakes to help me get a breeding project started. That's all i'm asking.

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Every breeder I know will give discounts if you purchase multiples. Honestly your post seems fishy to me especially since it's your first post (red flag number 1). You also seem to have no idea/care for what you want to breed (red flag number 2). You say you are a newbie in your first post, but instead of posting questions about potential breeding projects, breeding in general or care you make a post asking for snakes (that's red flag number 3). That's 3 too many red flags for me, I wish you luck if you are sincere in wanting to breed. I recommend craigslist if you truly have no care for what you want to breed and are just looking for cheap snakes.

If you are going to seriously inquire about snakes for sale you should post your request in the proper section (http://ball-pythons.net/forums/forum...tion-or-Wanted) with a list of what you are looking for.

1. I'm not a scam
2. I don't want free snakes
3. I've said normals or morphs it doesn't matter.
4. I want to start with the cheaper morphs as in pastels, spiders, pinstripes, etc.
5. I already own 6 ball pythons (1 vanilla, 2 pastels, 1 yellowbelly, 1 black pastel, and 1 normal.)
Only 2 are of breeding age. I'm just asking a simple question as to who has snakes for sale in which I can get into breeding.
I know how to care for snakes as I've worked in a pet store so no need in asking how to care for them.

knowing what area you are in would probably help out a lot to know if there is someone close to you.;)

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Originally Posted by Amber2102

1. I'm not a scam
2. I don't want free snakes

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I believe you meant scammer and point 1 and 2 are the same thing.

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Originally Posted by Amber2102

3. I've said normals or morphs it doesn't matter.
4. I want to start with the cheaper morphs as in pastels, spiders, pinstripes, etc.

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If you are going to breed you should have a plan and not just try to amass what is cheap. Breeding for quality is important if you want to sell anything you produce.

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Originally Posted by Amber2102

5. I already own 6 ball pythons (1 vanilla, 2 pastels, 1 yellowbelly, 1 black pastel, and 1 normal.)

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That's great that you already own some, but none of that was clear in any of your posts. You came off as someone who is looking to get some cheap snakes (as I said check craigslist).

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Originally Posted by Amber2102

Only 2 are of breeding age. I'm just asking a simple question as to who has snakes for sale in which I can get into breeding.
I know how to care for snakes as I've worked in a pet store so no need in asking how to care for them.

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As I stated in my previous post, you might want to actually research and ask questions before attempting to breed. There is a lot that goes into it and even after researching most still have questions.

Also 95% of the pet stores I have been in don't know nor care about proper care. May you worked at one of those super rare stores that knows what they are doing but without saying the store (I'm guessing it was either a chain store like Petco or Petsmart) I can only assume they are not given my personal experience with pet stores.

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Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl

knowing what area you are in would probably help out a lot to know if there is someone close to you.;)

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I'm in Ocala, Fl.

And low cost morph doesn't mean it's a cheap low quality snake. Spiders, Pinstripes, pastels are not low quality.
I don't need to do research as my fiance's uncle use to be a big ball python and bearded dragon breeder in Florida back in the day.
The pet store I worked at was a private pet shop not petsmart or petco.
All my reptiles have the best quality care they need.

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Originally Posted by Amber2102

I'm in Ocala, Fl.

And low cost morph doesn't mean it's a cheap low quality snake. Spiders, Pinstripes, pastels are not low quality.
I don't need to do research as my fiance's uncle use to be a big ball python and bearded dragon breeder in Florida back in the day.
The pet store I worked at was a private pet shop not petsmart or petco.
All my reptiles have the best quality care they need.

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Any morph can be low quality. 1k+ single morphs can be low quality. Quality has nothing to do with the morph, it has to do with the individual snake. A pastel that is orange / dirty, that will brown out, or an adult that is browned out, is a low quality pastel. Quality means the BEST example of any specific morph you can find.

Stomping your foot and saying " I don't need to do research! Because so and so told me this and I know that!" Is just plain silly. Even the biggest breeders in the country are still learning and improving. If you're not asking questions, you're not thinking hard enough.

My advice to you, would be to chill with the "I already know everything" attitude, and open up a little. You would be surprised at what you don't know, or can learn (add to your knowledge!). Everyone is just trying to help, breathe.


As to your original question, if your fiance's uncle was a big breeder, he should still know people in the area that breed that might can help you out. Alternatively, there is a show coming up in Orlando dec 15thish, go and talk to the local breeders. Get to know them and I'm sure you will get some great deals, and great knowledge.

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Originally Posted by Amber2102

I'm in Ocala, Fl.

And low cost morph doesn't mean it's a cheap low quality snake. Spiders, Pinstripes, pastels are not low quality.
I don't need to do research as my fiance's uncle use to be a big ball python and bearded dragon breeder in Florida back in the day.
The pet store I worked at was a private pet shop not petsmart or petco.
All my reptiles have the best quality care they need.

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I'm glad to know that your animals receive the best care. I also apologize for the attack I made, but I certainly got the wrong impression from your posts. And posts like yours are generally not the first ones people make.

I respectfully disagree that cheap doesn't mean low quality though, especially with pastel. Cheap pastels generally are generally no where near as nice as the more expensive ones. The cheap pastels tend to brown out much more than the expensive ones. I don't have any good photos right now, but there is a huge difference between my 125 dollar pastel and my 250 dollar pastel that will be even more apparent when they reach breeding size.

Edit: Tiffany's post is much better than mine and does make a great point about learning more. I no longer think you are a scammer, but there is always more to learn.

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Originally Posted by Amber2102

I'm in Ocala, Fl.

And low cost morph doesn't mean it's a cheap low quality snake. Spiders, Pinstripes, pastels are not low quality.
I don't need to do research as my fiance's uncle use to be a big ball python and bearded dragon breeder in Florida back in the day.
The pet store I worked at was a private pet shop not petsmart or petco.
All my reptiles have the best quality care they need.

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I promise you that you're not going to make friends or find help on this site coming in with posts and attitudes like this.

The fact is that there ARE low quality pastels, spiders, and pinstripes. Quality can vary widely from poor to stellar within any given morph. Breeding cheap "low quality" examples of the morph will result in "low quality" offspring, which you will find difficult to move.

Honestly, who cares whether your fiance's uncle used to be a breeder. Were you intimately involved in the breeding operation? If the answer is no, then you probably don't know nearly as much as you think you do. And if your fiance's uncle truly was a "big breeder", why aren't you asking HIM for contacts?

Just because you worked for a pet store (private or chain doesn't mean anything if they don't know proper care) doesn't mean you know the requirements for these animals, nor that you are providing the correct care. Your defensive attitude and reluctance to provide any details is a big red flag and I don't think you'll find a self-respecting breeder on this site who would sell you an animal at this point, much less at a discounted price.

I also echo another previous poster that if you're just looking for breeding sized snakes and not caring what morphs, you're not looking to get into this for the right reasons. You're looking at dollar signs, not the hobby itself. Here's the reality... You won't make money as a ball python breeder, especially if you're looking to work with "cheap" morphs that are already a dime a dozen in the market.

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Originally Posted by Amber2102

I'm in Ocala, Fl.

And low cost morph doesn't mean it's a cheap low quality snake. Spiders, Pinstripes, pastels are not low quality.
I don't need to do research as my fiance's uncle use to be a big ball python and bearded dragon breeder in Florida back in the day.
The pet store I worked at was a private pet shop not petsmart or petco.
All my reptiles have the best quality care they need.

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If you are looking for discounted morphs, they will not be the best examples of the morph. Ie, lower quality.

Save your money and don't cheap out or try to take shortcuts. Buy the best quality, be willing to pay MORE for quality, not less, and take time to raise up your breeders.

If you're looking for animals or breeders on this forum, you need to post that in the For Sale/Wanted forum.

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