Ben Siegel Reptiles, wow what is going on?

Have any of you seen his Facebook tonight? Crazy stuff going on it seems! Or is he just hacked?

I doubt he was hacked. If I were to hack someone, I would put something a lot funnier than that. (I'm not saying it's funny, but if it turns out they were hacked, then it would be pretty funny)

I just came here to report!! I'm going to paste the latest for those w/o facebook

"MISSING REPTILES FROM BSR -BOLO!(be on the look out for the initial impaired!)--CURRENTLY MISSING FROM OUR STORE AS OF TODAY-from our BSR corporate holdings and breeding stock

1 two headed albino honduran milksnake -medusa
2 albino blue tongue skinks-only 2 known to exist in the united states
Seymore-my pet eyeless ball python given to me
APPROX 250k worth of breeding ball pythons including my ...famous male pied that says Jesus down his back.
APPROX 20k worth of ball morph juveniles

total approx value--$570,000 worth-thats right---almost HALf a million. PLEASE RESHARE AND PASS IT ON---lets get these animals back where they belong.

PHOTOS AVAILABLE OF MOST-where abouts unknown---any information leading to the recovery of these animals will be rewarded. We got cleaned out, so please be on the lookout for these animals. They are near and dear to bsr and medusa requires very specialized care. Our breeders are cycled as well, so the loss from these animals being taken without permission could be devastating to our company."

I have no idea, but I hope things get straightened out soon enough.

His Facebook also states he fired all of his staff and is getting a divorce. It almost seems like too much to post all in one day. Craziness, I hope the animals are found!

i think he posted that his page was hacked, things going missing and everyone getting fired.

I would assume everything to be fake over the last few hours, until something more comes, I mean thats quite a bit to lay down, half mil worth of animals gone, firing an entire staff, new staff tomorrow, getting divorced, something about getting hacked, It is quite a bit to post in 3 hours.

But if it is true..... holy crap......

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Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser

I would assume everything to be fake over the last few hours, until something more comes, I mean thats quite a bit to lay down, half mil worth of animals gone, firing an entire staff, new staff tomorrow, getting divorced, something about getting hacked, It is quite a bit to post in 3 hours.

But if it is true..... holy crap......

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That's exactly what I was thinking.

Oh no! Who would do such a thing! I hope they get tracked down swiftly and alive.

Edit: I'm slow as molasses. I hope you guys are right and its just a hack to fb.

Stuff just got real....:eyepoppin:

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Originally Posted by RoseyReps

Oh no! Who would do such a thing! I hope they get tracked down swiftly and alive.

Edit: I'm slow as molasses. I hope you guys are right and its just a hack to fb.

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lol ok because I was about to respond with "I dont think they track people down for 'hacking' facebooks" lol

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Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser

lol ok because I was about to respond with "I dont think they track people down for 'hacking' facebooks" lol

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Lol nope! I was referring to the animals. If its true, I don't care if the slime ball is dead or alive.

Praying for disgruntled exemployee messing with fb.

Makes sense to me if he is going through a divorce and having all of these other issues. It more than likely would have to be an inside job with someone who has access to all of that.

I looked at the shared posts on FB and somebody seemed to know what was going on. They said the reptiles were stolen but he knows where they are?

Some of these people commenting..... I feel like i'm reading youtube comments

I just called Ben via the number listed for the shop - confirmed all on their facebook page is real and accurate, and is not continued hacking attempts. He is going through a divorce, walked into the shop this morning to find a restraining order placed on him, and lots of animals missing. He stated will be putting up an itemized list of animals tomorrow with hopes of tracking down the people who did this. He asked everyone to keep an eye out for any of the animals known to be his, being sold by somebody else - especially once the itemized lists get posted.


Wow. This is painful. He said he's a tough guy and will get through this, but I really hope that everything gets worked out quickly, and these criminals are brought to justice :/

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Originally Posted by Anatopism

I just called Ben via the number listed for the shop - confirmed all on their facebook page is real and accurate, and is not continued hacking attempts. He is going through a divorce, walked into the shop this morning to find a restraining order placed on him, and lots of animals missing. He stated will be putting up an itemized list of animals tomorrow with hopes of tracking down the people who did this. He asked everyone to keep an eye out for any of the animals known to be his, being sold by somebody else - especially once the itemized lists get posted.


Wow. This is painful. He said he's a tough guy and will get through this, but I really hope that everything gets worked out quickly, and these criminals are brought to justice :/

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did you call him or is that a copy and paste from someone else?

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Originally Posted by Anatopism

I just called Ben via the number listed for the shop - confirmed all on their facebook page is real and accurate, and is not continued hacking attempts. He is going through a divorce, walked into the shop this morning to find a restraining order placed on him, and lots of animals missing. He stated will be putting up an itemized list of animals tomorrow with hopes of tracking down the people who did this. He asked everyone to keep an eye out for any of the animals known to be his, being sold by somebody else - especially once the itemized lists get posted.


Wow. This is painful. He said he's a tough guy and will get through this, but I really hope that everything gets worked out quickly, and these criminals are brought to justice :/

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Wow, I can't even imagine!!!

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Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser

did you call him or is that a copy and paste from someone else?

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I just called and spoke with him, to confirm what's going on, and to offer some support :/

Check the other thread too. Supposedly some employee says the "other owner" (exwife?) has all the animals in another secure location. Nothing was stolen etc, no cops or what have you.

Perhaps this is all marriage drama? Her taking from him what she knows will hurt him the most, some of the staff liking her better or agreeing with her and helping? I don't know. Just speculating.

Ok let's get some stuff straight. I work at Ben Siegel, I was there when everything "went down" and was subsequently fired via a FB post after being made to pack up and leave this afternoon. Yes, Ben and Stacey are getting divorced - it will be ugly, no doubt. Yes, the animals were removed from the shop. He knows who has them, as they are the part owner of the company, and they have every legal right to be in possession of those animals. No police report has been made on the missing animals.

The animals are safe, they are being cared for. They will not be sold. They will not end up on the market, until all subsequent lawsuits over who-gets-what from the company and divorce.

As of late this morning, Ben was the only person who had access to Facebook, as he blocked all his employees from Admin.

Contrary to what he wants you to believe, nothing was hacked. Ben doesn't have the info to change the company website, so in order to stave off the rumors something was going on, he said it was hacked. Trust me, it wasn't.

The speculation can end here.

Thank you.

Melody

Check out the other thread, or his FB page. It's marital.

Smh,.. after reading his post and hearing about the divorce his wife was the first thing that popped into my head. Divorces can get nasty, people change and or you really see who they are. It's messed up but I can see it happening,.. she went on a shopping spree. " I want these three rows right here, oh and over there oooo (shivers) those are his favorites". Like Cruella Deville or something walking through there.

If it was all a part of the divorce why would he state that they were stolen and tell people to be on the lookout for them?...

As mentioned earlier on FB, Ben is having a mental breakdown, and needs help. The employees, his friends, and wife have tried very hard recently to get him some help, but he refuses - hence the pending divorce. Stacey has NOT gone on a shopping spree.

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Originally Posted by adamsky27

If it was all a part of the divorce why would he state that they were stolen and tell people to be on the lookout for them?...

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My guess is when you walk in and half your stuff is gone you assume theft. Maybe he just posted prematurely?

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Originally Posted by SugarFox03

As mentioned earlier on FB, Ben is having a mental breakdown, and needs help. The employees, his friends, and wife have tried very hard recently to get him some help, but he refuses - hence the pending divorce. Stacey has NOT gone on a shopping spree.

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I guess that explains his recent obsession with Wimpy.

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so whens the last time you saw that?

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Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser

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so whens the last time you saw that?

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Well we all now know how to get more views. I can only imagine how many his FB page and website have. :rolleye2:

Huh well that all sucks. Sounds no fun at all, hope everyone involved gets everything resolved and walks away happy.

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so whens the last time you saw that?

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No kidding. Real sad situation, seems like it's pretty tough for everyone

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Please everyone...take everything on the FB page with a grain of salt. Ben is now calling me out as doing "Special All Day Auctions" tomorrow and I have yet to speak with him about any of this. I think of Ben as a friend, more than a boss, and don't want to see him run the biz into the ground with his rantings. I can assure you, your info is safe, the animals are safe. Ben really needs help to get his mindset back - between the Oct 5 incident, and the divorce, he's been pushed over the edge. He's a powerful person, with tons of respect in the community, and for good reason.

Please just use good judgement when reading the posts on FB. Don't be upset if the "special" auctions don't happen tomorrow. I've not formally been invited back to work. I love(d) by job, but feel I, and all the other employees, deserve better treatment than to be fired on a FB post.

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still a lot of things don't make sense, everyones fired but melody is putting up auctions, but yet she said she was fired. The scattered brained posts, animals stolen but not, I honestly believe everything melody said, which if that is the case, I really hope he gets the help he needs.

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244 users browsing this thread...Wow.... Not only is this drama-fied, it's...odd...he just posted yesterday (I think) about being hacked, then all this happens. I'm not calling (Sounds Exotics or Melody) liars, it's just really hard to put two and two together here...Best of luck to Ben.

I agree. Melody is making a lot more sense right now than he is, I have a lot of respect for Ben, and BSR, I hope he is able to continue after all of this. I hope he can get the help he needs as well.

Edit: Darn fast moving thread. I agree with OWAL. Oye...

295 people and it's taking FOREVER to load here at school!

I hope that all of this gets settled down and we get some actual answers here.

He wasn't hacked. He doesn't have access to the website, so instead of saying "my wife posted..." he claims he's been hacked.

I have no reason to lie. I have yet to speak to Ben about working tomorrow. I've called him twice, and sent a text as well. I know his phone was off most of the day. I'm letting things go tonight, and I will call him in the morning to find out what the f* is going on.

I have no doubt he wants things to go back to normal, as I'm sure he cannot stand that his store isn't making him money right now. He just does not understand that the posts are hurting him - which is why I started doing damage control.

Believe what you want. I cannot give everything in tiny detail - as I'm sure I'll be brought into some sort of lawsuit.

Ben is crazy. He's f*ing brilliant, too. I guess everything comes with a cost.

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Originally Posted by SugarFox03

He wasn't hacked. He doesn't have access to the website, so instead of saying "my wife posted..." he claims he's been hacked.

I have no reason to lie. I have yet to speak to Ben about working tomorrow. I've called him twice, and sent a text as well. I know his phone was off most of the day. I'm letting things go tonight, and I will call him in the morning to find out what the f* is going on.

I have no doubt he wants things to go back to normal, as I'm sure he cannot stand that his store isn't making him money right now. He just does not understand that the posts are hurting him - which is why I started doing damage control.

Believe what you want. I cannot give everything in tiny detail - as I'm sure I'll be brought into some sort of lawsuit.

Ben is crazy. He's f*ing brilliant, too. I guess everything comes with a cost.

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Thank you for giving us what information you have. It is much appreciated. I'm sure I speak for a lot of us when I say it's hard to wrap our heads around it. Of course we want to believe Ben, he's the one we've had the most contact with. But everything you have said makes a lot more sense in my opinion. He is a very respected man, and if it turns out he needs some help, when the time comes he will be warmly welcomed again.

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Originally Posted by SugarFox03

He wasn't hacked. He doesn't have access to the website, so instead of saying "my wife posted..." he claims he's been hacked.

I have no reason to lie. I have yet to speak to Ben about working tomorrow. I've called him twice, and sent a text as well. I know his phone was off most of the day. I'm letting things go tonight, and I will call him in the morning to find out what the f* is going on.

I have no doubt he wants things to go back to normal, as I'm sure he cannot stand that his store isn't making him money right now. He just does not understand that the posts are hurting him - which is why I started doing damage control.

Believe what you want. I cannot give everything in tiny detail - as I'm sure I'll be brought into some sort of lawsuit.

Ben is crazy. He's f*ing brilliant, too. I guess everything comes with a cost.

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I would just like to make a request that you keep us updated with what you can, since you seem to be the only one doing so. This community is close and would like to know whats going on, as we sit here hoping for good news (especially when it goes public like this)

this thread defiantly seems to be the go to, 352....

Someone posted this link on his FB account hence the hundred viewers to the thread! It sound's like this should have been handled A LOT differently... No sense to say all of this on FB I for sure will not be buying from BSR for awhile....

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Originally Posted by gopherhockey03

Someone posted this link on his FB account hence the hundred viewers to the thread! It sound's like this should have been handled A LOT differently... No sense to say all of this on FB I for sure will not be buying from BSR for awhile....

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While there was no need for this to go public, if he is having a break down, it's out of his control in a way. I wouldn't put this as a mark against him or his business, hell it could be a cry for help and this is how he decided to ask.

*edit* almost forgot, I saw it peak at 360

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244 users browsing this thread...Wow.... Not only is this drama-fied, it's...odd...he just posted yesterday (I think) about being hacked, then all this happens. I'm not calling (Sounds Exotics or Melody) liars, it's just really hard to put two and two together here...Best of luck to Ben.

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I don't know anything except what Ben said on the phone to me. I obviously can't tell you how much of anyone's story is true - I just called the shop and spoke with Ben and have only repeated what he said to me. I am over in Washington, which is pretty far removed from Florida to know anything factual. :) Sounds like a bunch of marriage drama that sucks to be out in the open. I just hope people aren't making any more rash decisions, and stuff gets settled properly.

FWIW, if Ben is having a breakdown, what he needs right now is help. Nobody is "above" having a mental illness and it is a crying shame that MI issues are looked down on so much in our society. I hope Ben is able to get the help he needs. Saying anything against BSR at this point would be counterproductive to the reptile community as a whole.

-off the soapbox-

This is crazy...I just hope the snakes are unharmed when this blows over, or if it does.
Edit 369 WOW

Why would he tell you over the phone anything different that what's being posted on FB? He doesn't know you from Adam, so he's going to keep up with the "I've been robbed" story.

I will do my best in keeping everyone updated. I am only posting this because I would want to know what the hell was going on. I was a HUGE BSR fan before getting my job there, so I know where everyone is coming from.

I don't blame anyone for not wanting to purchase from him, you'll get no hard feelings from me. Just understand at no point is anyone's information not safe or at risk of being unsecure.

I'm not taking a shot at his business, I got my first Ball from BSR and I love her to death and she was everything and more he said she was. But firing employees over FB, claiming people "stole" snakes and posting what he's posting on FB is not the right way to handle your business. I do hope things get resolved soon for everyone's sake cause he is a good guy.

Thank you for keeping us updated, Melody.

He has had a really tough year. The tragedy with the bug-eating contest, and Jerry Tresser stealing the monkey-tailed skink, and now this. :weirdface

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I'm not taking a shot at his business, I got my first Ball from BSR and I love her to death and she was everything and more he said she was. But firing employees over FB, claiming people "stole" snakes and posting what he's posting on FB is not the right way to handle your business. I do hope things get resolved soon for everyone's sake cause he is a good guy.

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This doesn't appear to be some A* hole move, mental break down is what it is. When this is over, hopefully there can be some apologizing done and he can move forward.

so what was the peak? 370 something?