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  • 11-14-2012, 03:05 PM
    reptileexperts
    Super Pastel Genetic Stripe?
    Alright guys,

    So I purchased this girl from BHB a couple months back now, and his records are poor to say the least. But this girl arrived as a Pastel Genetic Stripe, a REALLY nice one in my mind. Then I started thinking about it, and looking into Pastel Genetic Stripes a little better, and even the best representations I can find do not match the quality of this girl. However, when I started looking around at the few shots of Super Pastel Genetic Stripes, it's an instant head / blushing match. So just throwing some feelers out there for anyone with experience with Genetic Stripes. She also seems to be retaining her alien heads a little well, which gave thought to some other stuff that might show up later on . . . she's going to be bred hopefully next year to my Male Pastel Genetic Stripe, I'll post him for comparison. This girl is currently weighing 340 grams empty.

    http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8487/8...cfaaf3ac_b.jpg

    http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8067/8...fbacb1f2_c.jpg

    some older shots

    http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8021/7...9cc0484c_c.jpg

    http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8043/8...d7155374_c.jpg this was just before her last shed which happened last night

    http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8340/8...ecf1e5d2_c.jpg
    My adult male for comparison produced by Garrick Demeyer

    So thoughts? I know it's all speculation till next year when she proves out, but I have a very strong feeling she will prove out as a Super Pastel, and this girl would ultimately prove out to be the best deal on any of my balls.
  • 11-14-2012, 03:12 PM
    Mike41793
    What was the pairing? She is an extremely hot example imo.
  • 11-14-2012, 03:16 PM
    reptileexperts
    Bryan did not respond to my request on parent information . . . hence the speculation!
  • 11-14-2012, 04:13 PM
    interloc
    I feel like we need mr Corey Woods to chime in here. I know he works a lot with the genetic stripe stuff. She is much lighter than ur male there. I instead would breed her to something that wasn't pastel. That way you would be able to figure it out sooner. If you bred her to pastel something, and say you hatched no normals and some supers, you could argue that you had amazing odds. If you bred to a Mojave let's say, and then hatched no normals but had some pastaves, then IMHO it would be a better clue as to if she is indeed a super. Just my .02.


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  • 11-14-2012, 04:22 PM
    Mike41793
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by reptileexperts View Post
    Bryan did not respond to my request on parent information . . . hence the speculation!

    Try calling him. Lori is usually really helpful.
  • 11-14-2012, 05:11 PM
    reptileexperts
    Yep plan to. Usually get one of their receptionist when you call.
  • 11-14-2012, 06:22 PM
    Kenj620
    I would say super unless there is something else going on, I have a pastel g-stripe and looks nothing like her
  • 11-14-2012, 06:48 PM
    TessadasExotics
    Looks like a very nice Pastel G Stripe.
  • 11-14-2012, 07:36 PM
    OhhWatALoser
    Comparing pastel GS to super pastel GS on google, then looking back at yours. looks like a pastel GS to me.
  • 11-14-2012, 08:06 PM
    reptileexperts
    Compare them to the ones on king snake for sale and on world of ball pythons. That's where I looked. The two are just worlds different IMO
  • 11-14-2012, 08:07 PM
    reptileexperts
    Take extra note to the blushings on the face.
  • 11-14-2012, 10:29 PM
    Kenj620
    This is my male I just got and I thought he was average as far as the pastel expression and no white on the head at all 400g. Yours really looks more like a super
    https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...79050688_n.jpg
  • 11-14-2012, 10:43 PM
    OhhWatALoser
    Re: Super Pastel Genetic Stripe?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by reptileexperts View Post
    Compare them to the ones on king snake for sale and on world of ball pythons. That's where I looked. The two are just worlds different IMO

    I just went to google and looked at a bunch of random ones. Well breeding will prove it one way or another for you. good luck!
  • 11-14-2012, 10:47 PM
    SlitherinSisters
    Oh man I'm no good at pastel g-stripes! It seems like it could be a super, but there are some plan old pastels that have really white heads so I don't know.
  • 11-14-2012, 10:55 PM
    reptileexperts
    Yeah, she'll be bred and well see what I can get from it. She'll go against a pastel G-stripe next season, if I get all pastels, I'll put her against a Lesser the following year. Rather not put her against a normal or something just to prove out the odds if I can prove out at least the likelihood without sacrificing much on the end product.
  • 11-14-2012, 11:11 PM
    TessadasExotics
    Not saying that it isn't possible, but I find it HIGHLY unlikely that Brian would not be able to tell the difference between a Pastel/Super Pastel genetic stripe. He's made plenty I am sure and wouldn’t make a mistake like that. Your talking like a $1k difference in pricing. Unless someone else didn't know what they were doing and you got lucky.

    Im sticking to it's a superb pastel genetic stripe.
  • 11-16-2012, 08:37 AM
    reptileexperts
    We will just wait and see. . . I still can't see it as being just a normal Pastel Genetic Stripe unless there was absolutely no way it could've came out as a super. When it first arrived it was quite dull and the head was almost translucent. Now as its put on some good age, it's done nothing but gain tremendous color, and the head has remained fairly white / purple / pink with incredible yellow supercilliary lines. Again, only way to do anything about it is prove it out. But I've sent it to a few different big shots who have made suggestion that it's a super pastel, with one person pushing that it APPEARS to be a chocolate pastel genetic stripe (this was even before I told them it was from BHB, chocolate kings . . . ). We will see, she's not going anywhere from me that is for sure.
  • 11-17-2012, 10:08 AM
    Corey Woods
    Over the last 3 years I've produced 10 Super Pastel Genetic Stripes and they've all been males! I have yet to produce a female......

    Anyways, all of the Super Pastel Genetic Stripes I've produced have all been pretty much the same as far as looks go. Very bright, patternless sides and reduced stripe on the top. I think you have just a really nice Pastel Genetic Stripe.

    Here are some pictures of some Super Pastel Genetic Stripes;

    2010 Super Pastel Genetic Stripe

    http://www.coreywoods.com/ball_birth...1338999864.jpg

    http://www.coreywoods.com/ball_birth...1339015125.jpg

    Some Baby Pics

    https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.n..._3983992_o.jpg

    http://www.coreywoods.com/ball_birth...1338999868.jpg

    SPGS with a Genetic Stripe

    https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.n...36016809_n.jpg

    SPGS with a Super Pastel Het Genetic Stripe

    http://www.coreywoods.com/ball_birth...1338999869.jpg

    SPGS with Pastel Genetic Stripes

    http://www.coreywoods.com/ball_birth...1339015128.jpg

    http://www.coreywoods.com/ball_birth...1339015130.jpg

    Regards,
    Corey
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